Where in the Snowy Mountains in the 1960's?

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by silverwitch, Dec 18, 2012.

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    hipo

    hipo Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Great photos there MR.M
    The dark creamy colour box hut to the left of the ski centre was the old ticket office - $13 day lift pass IIRC
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    tcole

    tcole New Member

    Try this website, useful for all ski jumps in australia..
    http://www.skisprungschanzen.com/EN/Ski+Jumps/AUS-Australia/NSW-New+South+Wales/Perisher+Valley/1574/
     
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    Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

     
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    Dos

    Dos Dedicated Member

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    umm

    Can these two possibly be the same place?
     
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    VSG

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    DOS. you want to tell us where 'this' is? [​IMG]
     
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    VSG

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    VSG

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    Could be at the area where Piper's T stops and the link over to Smiggs starts, if it is not the 'front valley' of Smiggins.
     
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    Dos

    Dos Dedicated Member

    I think I've got a very big clue as to where my friend's photo was taken.

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    Dos

    Dos Dedicated Member

    Wrong pohto.
     
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    Dos

    Dos Dedicated Member

    I FOUND IT, I FOUND IT, I FOUND IT, I FOUND IT, I FOUND IT, I FOUND IT !!!!!

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    Dos

    Dos Dedicated Member

    Although, I still can't be sure it is the same place as the OP's one.
     
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    Diponza

    Diponza Active Member

    Hi Mr Mook

    Unlike myself, you seem to know exactly what you arw talking about when it comes to scanning slides and therefore I was hoping you could help me out. I have an EPSON PERFECTION 4490 PHOTO scanner and about 200 or so slides that were taken in the Snowy Mountains from the 1960s to the 1980s. Do you have any advice on which settings to use to in order make the most the out of the images?
     
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    silverwitch

    silverwitch Active Member

    Dos...where was the photo taken..nothing looks familiar to me?
     
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    Dos

    Dos Dedicated Member

    Perisher.

    The photo I shouted "I FOUND IT" was taken from the road between North Perisher and Mt Piper near Telemark T-Bar.


    I've got some photos from this year taken at Perisher and Thredbo. Just zoom in and click on the spots you want to see the galleries.
    http://dosday.com/map/snow
     
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    AndrewCudgewa

    AndrewCudgewa Active Member

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    G'day Mr Mook,

    Amen to other's comments, these are great shots and bring back many memories, particularly teh shot of Jindabyne as it seemd to look for many years! I would like to include the picture of snow clearing (Looks to be a Rolba, with an unidentifed truck, perhaps one of the old RTA MAN's following?) above on my website.....

    http://australianalpinoversnow.blogspot.com.au/

    ..........if that is Ok with you? Will be credited to you if so.

    Cheers, Andrew
     
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    Mr. Mook

    Mr. Mook Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    hey Andrew not a problem.
    the more the photos are shared the better.
    I have another one that is zoomed slightly closer if you are interested.
     
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    AndrewCudgewa

    AndrewCudgewa Active Member

    Thank you Mr Mook, and Yes, would be great if you wouldn't mind posting the picture zoomed closer?

    Cheer, Andrew
     
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    CIRCA1962

    CIRCA1962 Active Member


    Great photos that bring back some childhood memories.

    The tree felled site is the cleared original Cabramurra township site, looking towards the Tumut ponds camp. It would have been taken around 1959 - with one of the first houses at the top right hand side the photo. You can see the line of the original Cabramurra ski club rope tow (this was a nutcracker tow given the pitch of the slope) below the house. The original tow was replaced with a Poma lift in the early 1970s. A new permanent town was then constructed in the mid seventies.
    The smaller dam is the Tumut ponds dam below Cabramurra - which was constructed in 1958 and then filled the following summer.
     
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    VSG

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    Gimp gets the prize. from a few pages back. [​IMG]

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    jasoncharles

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    silverwitch

    silverwitch Active Member

    WOW!! There are some amazing detectives in this forum..who know the snowies so well and also who know how to find out where and when!!
     
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    SideStreet

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    Whiteman

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    Great shots. Thanks to all with the retained knowledge. [​IMG]
     
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    woggybot

    woggybot Dedicated Member

    Awesome pics and some excellent input by the forumettes [​IMG]
     
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    Ziggy

    Ziggy Addicted Member Season Pass Silver

    Big scanning job.

    My father worked on the Snowies in the 50s building roads and then from the 60s on building pipelines to the power stations (M1, M2, T3). He left behind some std 8 film but I dunno where all the slides went.
     
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    Hanz Onyawaif

    Hanz Onyawaif Active Member

    Here is a film of Australia's first baby Poma lift.
    Does anyone know where & when this film was shot?
     
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    person s

    person s Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    is that present-day Sponar's at the beginning?
    this page suggests Blue Calf but it doesn't look right
     
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    gareth_oau

    gareth_oau Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    I've not seen a Poma that the operator loads like that.

    The stuff those skiers were doing on the poma near the end of the vid would get your lift ticket taken off you today
     
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    snowduck

    snowduck Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    My guess is the old poma at Diggers Creek, close to Sponars Chalet
     
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    Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    With that carpark? Smiggins, maybe?
     
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    D-eye

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    Mr. Mook

    Mr. Mook Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    I am fairly sure it's Smiggins.
    The whole layout was different in the early years.
    Where Perisher has the Bus & Groomer depot now was the original carpark that you can see in the background
     
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    robbo mcs

    robbo mcs Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    The building featured at the start is definitely the hotel kosciuszko, but after the main hotel building burnt down in 1951. The remaining building is now known as Sponars chalet, and is located at Diggers creek. I don't know for sure where the poma is.
     
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    Fandango

    Fandango Active Member

    Tony Sponar rigged one up at the hill behind Sponars Chalet, they cleared a run which went over the road, if you look sharp left as you come down the road before sponars you'll see where the tree
    s are smaller, that's where the run was. In the 60's I think. Ran it with a car engine , what days they must have been!
     
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    Hanz Onyawaif

    Hanz Onyawaif Active Member

    Here is another film shot in 1963 in the Australian Snowy mountains.
    It seems to be incomplete but has some great footage of early Thredbo & Perisher.
    Some of the names of the competitors in the slalom race are worthy of Billy Birmingham's 12th Man albums.
    I hope you enjoy the film.

     
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    silverwitch

    silverwitch Active Member

    Thanks for sharing those 2 videos Hanz. They are real gems capturing the history of the area. :cheers:
     
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    gareth_oau

    gareth_oau Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    LOL, the poma at Charlotte Pass uses this clutch mechanism operated by the lifty.

    Used it on Tuesday LOL
     
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    robbo mcs

    robbo mcs Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Hi,

    Thanks for the great video. The good old days of tobacco sponsorship;)

    So who won the race? The suspense, and then the last bit of the film is missing :eek: There is some great footage of perisher and thredbo in there. The snow cover on Mt P looks better than anything we have seen for a long time. Out of interest the racing is in the area now known as GS bowl / sidewinder
     
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    silverwitch

    silverwitch Active Member

    I like the poma lifts better than the tbars...I think they are easier to use. Selwyn has 3 of them.
     
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    DbSki

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    Thredbo to CP chairlift

     
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    DbSki

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    DbSki

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    Never seen a Poma the lift operator doesn't stand there.
    I operated a few at Buller over 81 season.

    The operator of that one in the video is making one big mistake.
    When you grab the hangar from the pack to hand the skier you have to look up every time to make sure the last hangar you grabbed is attached to the last cable nut in the rack.

    Every now and then the Poma hangar tube behind can slip ahead of one in the lower guides so to the operator it looks like the next Poma to be released but its not.
    If you look up you see the Poma you are grabbing is attached to the second last lever and nut in the cable guide up top and they are crossed over at the long spring section.

    You needed to pull the one you have out and the next one too and untangle the spring so the hanger is in correct order to the top of each one.

    If you didn't do that and one hangar had jumped the line in the rack, when you hand the Poma hangar to the skier and pull the handle, the one still in the rack that is attached to the top lever you just released on the line flies out of the rack and as the spring unravels instantly the Poma swings out sideways and cracks the operator in the back of the head.
    Only needed to do that once to learn to look up every time before pulling the handle.

    Howqua at Buller was different in that it loaded at each end of the line, Bk St and Howqua because it went over the saddle and served slopes on both sides.
    This meant the operator had to send back empty Poma hangars to Bk St so even if there was no people you still had to pull Poma's all day on it.

    If the weather was nasty most people used to ride up Bk St and get off like Baldly 1 and 2 so hangars would come over but no-one was over at Summit to it was all empty hangars going back and no-one to load at Howqua.
    It was common practice to sit inside the shed which was a phone box with no windows and close the door enough you could just pull the handle from inside the shed and keep out of the blizzard.

    You just had to listen for clang of the hangar passing the first tower wheel before pulling the next empty hangar blind, they had to be spaced out you could not send a bunch.

    Every now and then you would pull the lever and there be this almighty crack as the wrong Poma came out of the rack and slammed into the shed.
    It was about 1 in 30 or so and you had no warning to get used to it, after a few clear you'd relax and then BANG !.
    Kept you awake.
     
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    gareth_oau

    gareth_oau Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    the only other poma I have used is at Sun Peaks, and that doesnt use a clutch type mechanism and is permanently fixed, with extending tows. much like a tbar.

    I found that one much easier to use with a snowboard, as its not coming from behind me, but is already stretched out in front before the tension/towing starts
     
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    Hanz Onyawaif

    Hanz Onyawaif Active Member

    Here is another film by Tony Sponar called snow frolic.
    I hope you enjoy the film.
     
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    climberman

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    Thank you Hanz, much appreciated.
     
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    Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Dedicated Member

    Up to the mid-80's IIRC Lakeside, Headwater and a few of the others at Falls were self-loading Pomas. They had a trigger as you skied past which released the Poma.
     
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    climberman

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    _HARLOTTES _ASS LOL
     
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    silverwitch

    silverwitch Active Member

    Thanks for sharing...I have really enjoyed watching the movies you have posted. :woohoo:
     
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    snowduck

    snowduck Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    That video.

    From 15:22 to 15:34 is the Charlotte Pass to Thredbo Valley chairlift
     
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    Zeroz

    Zeroz Dedicated Member

    Charlottes Pass. I like the discreet fun they are having with the sign..

    20 seconds
    - Charlottes ass. The 'P' is covered with snow.
    23 seconds - harlottes - the 'C' is coincidentally covered with a pack handle

    harlottes ass. 1963 Aussie humour.