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Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Nozawaman, May 5, 2017.
Well...here goes...honesty time.
I have attempted to cross over to skis - not to stay there, but to be well rounded and have options, but IT IS HARD! One leg works, the other one doesn't!
I'd bloody well agree with this t-shirt!
I was not a natural on a snowboard either, it took a lot of face plants and scorpions to get me riding. Maybe I just need to try harder with skiing
My nephew had his first snow experience a few years ago, he tried both, found skiing easier.
And there is your problem, they're meant to be alongside each other!
Now why didn't someone tell me that before !!! <pout>
Not true at all!
Have done both
Found skiing a hell of alot easier, but less enjoyable
it should read
"If Skiing was hard, then everyone would snowboard"
Skiing and snowboarding are both actually really easy! How else do you think people learn to do it at all, with often as little as 3-5 days a year of practice!?
The point isn't that skiing is harder than snowboarding (or any other sport), the point is that it's MORE FUN.
Surfing, skateboarding, rock climbing, martial arts, golf, driving a manual vehicle...there's heaps of stuff that requires years of dedication and hundreds of hours of practice to master. Skiing isn't really one of them.
Fitted boots, modern skis, two months of training, and you can ski a black run in 30cm of quality fresh snow I reckon. There you go, you're a competent skier.
Was considering switching to snowboard when my dodgy hip made holding a load on that leg difficult. Now that I am bionic on that side, might be time to buy some new ski boots.
I would dispute your definition of competent.
And managing to get to the bottom of a black run isn't necessarily "skiing" it. When you can get to the bottom with the style the hill is asking of you, then you've skied it. Otherwise you're just a hack butchering it.
Purely my own opinion of course. Very subjective.
This was me on the flat run from mid station to goat's gulley last year. Made it across the first time without running out of petrol, faceplanted myself on the second run. Punters on the quad thought it was great entertainment
what is life if you cant put a smile on someone's face from time to time!
Pfft, just a rip off of a K2 Telemark t-shirt from 20 years ago.
You wanna challenge, get the problem!
It didn't put a smile on mine
Then you're taking yourself too seriously!
The reality is the only way to learn a new skill is to fail a few times on the journey. I've got a t-shirt that I love, and gets whipped out when I'm having a negative headspace, that says 'Fall 7 times. Get up 8.' I'm not athletically naturally talented so I've had PLENTY of practice seeing the funny side of eating it in front of an audience.
sadly you are more right than wrong. But never let bragging rights get in the way of the truth. I tell people, that I can ski the moguled nasty R3 at hakuba47. What I don't say is that it takes me five minutes to do it.
Of course both are easy to do ,but both are bloody hard to be really good at. Your definition of competent is very different to mine , maybe I have set the bar a little higher. I have done both but consider myself a skier. I started on skis at a very young age a damn long time ago, before boards were a commercial thing( I cant say invented because I saw a doco that showed a couple of seppo's using a very rudimentary board back in the 1960's). As my kids grew I used boards in the early to mid 1990;s and found it pretty easy to do and a bit of fun but to get really good at it is another thing altogether , same with skiing.
While both skiing and boarding are fun its really more what turns you on the most that counts. As for which is harder as you go up levels , hands down skiing is far harder to master because it is more technical. I find even after 45 years of skiing I am still learning little bits of technique but snowboarding isn't anywhere near as technical and what you learn inside a few years is pretty much all there is to know but you spend the rest of your life trying to perfect those same basic skills.
The t-shirt is correct.
I was only kidding. I'm still crap on the board but have a mountain of fun anyway.
Guilty, many times over.
Oh, don't think you're alone there. I'm well and truly in that camp.
I've been skiing for 30 years and I'm still learning.
It's a bit like golf. Easy to get started, harder to master.
I mastered it instantly, I just pretend I havent so as not to hurt the humans feelings.
You being an alien and all...
Well I am surely not of this planet!
I ride, have never skiied and doubt I ever will. Imo it would be significantly more difficult than riding. However my skier friends all say that riding is a lot hard than skiing so who knows.
I'm bisexual (ie I do both). I'm better at boarding but I found skiing easier to learn. I'm still only an advanced beginner skier so will probably never master it (or either in fact)
I actually quite often hear that skiing is easier to learn, harder to master and boarding is harder to learn, easier to master.
I would like to try skiing but I honestly don't see myself having the control to do it haha
Someone who does both?
(Not me BTW)
Some people take to it quickly.
My kids crossed over stupidly easily.
I've got a left knee issue that flares up after a few turns and then the form goes to shiz, so progression is SSSLLLLOOOOWWW.
I started boarding at Falls Creek in the 1980's when I was there with a group of fellow firefighters. It was in its infancy and barely anyone doing it.
So I hired the kit, somehow got to the top of the lift and pointed downhill. Can't be that hard.
I clearly recall a few younger guys going up the chair, pointing out my obvious boarding skills at this newish (at the time) novelty discipline. Trouble was that despite having good balance, I had no skill, no idea and ended up in a creek with a twisted knee.
Equipment was quickly and politely returned to the hire shop. First and last time
Rest assured the mates were merciless with the evening banter at the Frying Pan Inn!!
Based on my own experience only, learning to board isnt actualy difficult but you do have to approach with an open mind that you WILL fall over lots.
I suspect that a lot of experienced and capable skiers who try boarding get frustrated very quickly with the amount of falling over that happens and give up too soon
Certainly my experience. I remember catching a front edge and fell so fast I never had any time to put my hands out to break the fall. I lay winded on Front Valley for about ten minutes, until I could get back up on my feet. I took the board straight back to the hire shop.
Lucky you didn't get your hands out.
Broken wrists are a common boarding injury!
In celebration of diversity week...
Is it subjective opinion that it is "purely my own opinion of course..." If so then tis possible that you do not exist at all. If not, then on what grounds could the statement be "objective" or something other than an "opinion"?
Snowboarding is not easy, just take a look at the latest Shaun White films in his return to half pipe competition. You could not get anything more difficult that pulling a triple cork in a half pipe.
Ya big wus! A compound fracture of the wrist and a dislocated shoulder, in different seasons fortunately, taught me to master snowboarding.
That can be done after a few days snowboarding
Yep, and a very sore tail bone. Though years and years ago, on my first day of boarding at Friday Flat, I resolved myself to keep riding, even after the lifts had stopped, until I could ride the entire slope without falling, and low and behold...
I would say maybe two to three solid weekends of riding with lessons.
I'm a park guy but doing whatever in the pipe is just like an aerialist skier and not a reflection on your ability as snowboarder or skier
Uphill snowboarding? Reminds me of:
Yes, the early days of boarding must have been very trying, there was no knowledge of technique eg toe heel edge transition, twas all trial and error. I watched an 80's Burton board comp on film (on you tube somewhere) and boy, the comp was about riding 10 or so feet, hitting a bump and landing... If you rode the distance and landed the bump, you progressed to the next heat. These riders were the pioneers who sacrificed seasons of skiing for a future that they would not be a part of. Compare these pioneers to the riding of Shawn White and Travis Rice today...the progress has been phenomenal. The beauty of today is that technique is understood and documented and can be handed down ... the instructors hold the wisdom.
Have you got there yet?
Ya gotta laugh. Mate, tis a simple matter of unclipping, having a pleasant walk in nice soft boots, maybe chat to a chick on the way or a bloke for that matter, clipping back in, then full tilt edge to edge carving or what ever takes your fancy...sik joy mate.
Yep, in the year 2000 (the year I began), and boy what a season to start, powder through till September.
No more or no less easier.