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The Japanese season 2012-2013 weather

Discussion in 'Weather' started by fletch, Nov 23, 2012.

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    TJ

    TJ Dedicated Member

    60 at Cortina apparently.
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    Otari is showing increase from 23cm yesterday, to 93cm at 11am today. Cortina would probably have gotten more up the top.

    Nozawa Onsen was showing 21cm last night (bottom), at 11am has 72cm.

    Sekiyama (near Myoko, one station north of Myoko Kogen) was on 10cm yesterday, now 71cm at 11am.
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    A bit of a lull in Japan right now with light westerlies, but later in the day IMO, a northerly should kick in and persist for around a day and a half.
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    sourmash

    sourmash Well-Known Member

    Blue bird day yesterday and clear again this morning in Niseko. Started snowing lightly about midday, getting heavier now in late afternoon.
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    roystein

    roystein New Member

    Two weeks to go!
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    sourmash

    sourmash Well-Known Member

    Puking now at 9:30pm since about 4pm....

    [​IMG]
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    Fresh northerly wind and clear skies in Yokohama....... should be dumping on the resorts in central Japan!!!!!!
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    On the JMA site, since yesterday evening to 8am:

    Sekiyama (near Myoko): +28cm (52cm -> 80cm)
    Yuzawa (base town near Naeba & Kagura): +47cm (57cm -> 104cm)
    Nozawa Onsen: +20cm (58cm -> 78cm)
    Otari (near Cortina): +13cm (70cm -> 83cm)
    Hakuba (town office): +1 (26cm -> 27cm)
    Kutchan (base town near Niseko): +23cm (108cm -> 131cm)
    Furano: +5cm (35cm -> 40cm)

    Pick of the bunch seems to be Yuzawa
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    TJ

    TJ Dedicated Member

    Cortina had 20cm overnight on top of it snowing all day yesterday.
    Snowing lightly in the valley atm and very windy.
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    Nozawaman

    Nozawaman Dedicated Member

    We had 40cms overnight and has been snowing all day .
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    skichanger

    skichanger Dedicated Member

    Myoko about the same. I have just come in from moving snow since before 8 this morning with a short break for breakfast.
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    TJ

    TJ Dedicated Member

    -6 here this arvo in the valley. Northern end is copping it today.. Very windy too.
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    Yuzawa looks to be the pick of the bunch....

    Only 340m elevation, gateway to Kagura & Naeba, they've had 63cm since last night..... possibly 50% more at Kagura.
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    TJ

    TJ Dedicated Member

    Clear morning and down to -15.
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    -16.1 at 7am, Hakuba town weather station!!
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    Stratus

    Stratus Addicted Member

    Any predictions for next two weeks in Honshu?
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    DeskRider

    DeskRider Well-Known Member

    Warm over this weekend with snow coming in a big way from Sunday evening. IMO if you are in the Honshu hills between Monday 31st - Tuesday 9th you are going to have a good time [​IMG]
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    Strangely enough, I will be in the Honshu hills between Jan 1st and 8th, so the weather (snow) should be brilliant!!!! [​IMG]
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    HoopDogg

    HoopDogg Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know/have links for any hakuba forecasts that are longer range than 7 days out?
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    sourmash

    sourmash Well-Known Member

    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 15, 2013
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    Mrstr_Chief

    Mrstr_Chief Dedicated Member

    Snow-forecast is terrible at predicting snowfall, it's good at determining freze levels, best to learn how to read weather models imho, heaps easy for Japan, just got to check the wind direction (nw) and let the sea of Japan do the rest ;-)

    I use weather.unisys.com
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    Olgreg

    Olgreg Well-Known Member

    I find with snowforecast, you ignore the cms predicted and look for moderate snowfall. That seems to be accurate in predicting decent dumps.
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    Still looks like rain in central Japan resorts, Sat 29th/Sun 30th, and some seriously strong winds in Hokkaido Sun 30th/Mon 31st, IMO.

    But good snow in central Japan from 31st Dec - 3rd Jan. And very cold with snow in Hokkaido around that time.
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    Skipress

    Skipress Well-Known Member Commercial Member

    Friday, Dec. 28, 2012

    60 spots see mercury dip to new low (Sourced from Japanese Times)

    A cold wave sent temperatures to record lows for December in 60 locations Thursday morning, the weather agency said, warning the cold weather is likely to continue over the weekend.

    The mercury fell to minus 28.1 in Taiki in Hokkaido, minus 11.2 in Fukushima Prefecture's Namie and minus 4.5 in Osaka Prefecture's Toyonaka, according to the Meteorological Agency.

    The Sukayu hot spa area in Aomori Prefecture saw snowfall of 297 cm as of 10 a.m., a new high for the month, up from the previous record of 295 cm logged on Dec. 29, 2005.

    The temperature some 1,500 meters above Ishikawa Prefecture on the Sea of Japan coast sank to minus 14.5 on Wednesday night, more than 9 degrees lower than the average year, the agency said, adding it is very rare to observe such a strong cold air mass there even in the middle of winter.
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    TJ

    TJ Dedicated Member

    snowing heavily atm
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    Interesting and promising!!!
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    TJ

    TJ Dedicated Member

    Agree. I think the warm air may have dissipated. May only be slight R in the valley and ok up top. Next week is looking very good.
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    Kimski

    Kimski Well-Known Member

    Four weeks until I hit the Hakuba slopes. Hearing about all this snow makes a nice change from worrying if there will be enough snow for my Aus / NZ trips. Can't wait!
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    GFS and NOGAPS are looking very different from each other.
    Central Japan resorts looks like(IMO):

    NOGAPS:
    Sat 29: Warm but dry
    Sun 30: Rain developing turning to snow
    Mon 31: Snow, cold
    Tue 1st: Snow easing, cold
    Wed 2nd: Mainly fine, cool
    Thu 3rd: Mainly fine, mild
    Thu 4th: Mainly fine, mild

    GFS:
    Sat 29: Warm but dry
    Sun 30: Rain developing turning to snow
    Mon 31: Snow, cold
    Tue 1st: Snow easing
    Wed 2nd: Heavy snow, cold
    Thu 3rd: Snow, cold
    Fri 4th: Snow easing, cold
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    sourmash

    sourmash Well-Known Member

    Snowing lightly in Niseko after snotting all day. Feels much warmer tonight - from what I can see in local reports -4 rather than the -10 or lower of last few nights. Wind has dropped off to zero. Looking forward to no wind and warmer conditions with more freshies tommorrow.

    Superstition at Niseko Village this morning was awesome!
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    skichanger

    skichanger Dedicated Member

    It has been snowing at Myoko since about 5pm. I have been listening to it sliding off my roof all night. Lovely sound! Last season we had snow stoppers on the roof and consequently had a lot of snow there. We were lucky to only have to remove it once and only have a small amount of roof damage.
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    GSea

    GSea Well-Known Member

    Looks like a warm day coming up, with Hakuba on 6 deg and even Niseko has just reached above zero. I wonder what the Japanese
    equivalent is of the 'Pineapple Express'.
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    TJ

    TJ Dedicated Member

    How about a "Wasabi Shinkansen"
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    GSea

    GSea Well-Known Member

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Very good. Some like it hot.
    Just hope Mr. Wasabi doesn't cause too much damage.
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    sourmash

    sourmash Well-Known Member

    Raining in Hirafu this morning, aargh!
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    Not surprising IMO. There's a high off to the east and a low off to the west, directing warm air up into Hokkaido.
    The warm temperatures will continue until later in the day/early tomorrow in Hokkaido.(and also central Japan)
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    vito43

    vito43 New Member

    Does Sandy have any predictions for snowfall from Jan 6th onwards from latest weather charts for central Japan? I see your usually pretty accurate so thought I'd ask as I'm heading Madarao/myoko/nozawa between 6th and 17th.
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    spaceman347

    spaceman347 Well-Known Member

    Serious rain event in Furano all afternoon, not good.....
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    Mrstr_Chief

    Mrstr_Chief Dedicated Member

    ^ yuk, hopefully the base recovers over the next week.
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    skichanger

    skichanger Dedicated Member

    Myoko has had about 30cm snow overnight after rain yesterday.
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    At this stage, IMO, looks like clear & cold with light winds 6th -7th, a little snow 8th-9th, 10th-12th clearer and warmer, and good snow rolling in 13th-17th.
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    vito43

    vito43 New Member

    By "a little snow" do you mean a few cm's or a myoko style little snow like 30cm?
    You see, I was hoping for BIG snow sometime on our trip all the way from Scotland. could 13th-17th potentially deliver? I am aware this is still a long way out so its speculative but hey.
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    "A little snow" would be 30cm overnight type of snow.... "Good snow" might be 150cm+ over 4 days [​IMG]
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    Dave6

    Dave6 Well-Known Member

    ^ Sounds good. Lock that in please Sandy.
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    PiedPiper

    PiedPiper Well-Known Member

    Is it usual to have rain events at the Japanese resorts during mid-winter?

    I see tthe Myoko is very close to sea level and close to the ocean so i suspect that itt might be succeptable to rain events?

    Hakuba is a bit higher ( from memory) so probably less rain there?
    When i was in Nideko last we had a day of light rain, but that was late Feb so...... ??
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator

    It's not mid winter yet, but these low pressure troughs one after the other in late december are unusual.
    In mid winter (IMO, from the start of January until about the end of the 1st week in Feb), you might get one rain event. After that until the end of Feb, they are more common, but not every week for example.

    Rain events are not caused so much by proximity to the sea in mid winter. They are caused by low pressure troughs/storm systems that move in from the west or SW. I've often said that the best case scenario for central Japan, is to have a winter with NO STORMS at all, just a consistent northerly wind.
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    Mrstr_Chief

    Mrstr_Chief Dedicated Member

    [​IMG]
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 12, 2013
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    J_T_

    J_T_ Well-Known Member

    Hi

    Dumb question but what do you see in the chart?
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    Mrstr_Chief

    Mrstr_Chief Dedicated Member

    That thick black line (5400m) over much of Japan = Cold
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    Mrstr_Chief

    Mrstr_Chief Dedicated Member

    *Queue Sandy's comments