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Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by piolet, Jul 14, 2011.
Yeah. Great looking trip. At least you had some OK snow!
Took a short ski out of Falls over the dam wall & to Drovers Lookout along the aquaduct yesterday afternoon - by the looks of it skiing to Mt Nelse is a go.
Driving south. Going to ski @tele-whippet 's snow for him.
Woohoo, new boots. So much more comfy than the old ones.
@Telemark Phat you'd be proud of me, sized down again.
Testing to follow...
You got tiny feet! That's my wife's size!
What's the weight like on those bad boys?
They look a bit stiff in the forefoot, are they 2nds?
Selwyn, just heading off now. Snowing from Alpine creek up.
Skiable whole way to 4 mile. Lovely skiing in the dark.
Splitted from Guthega over up Tate East Ridge and it was as sparse as I've seen. 20-30cm or so on top of bushes and not really rideable.
Cover got a little better mid-way up but very tricky with lots of lumps/bumps from the landscape not being filled in yet. Was very tough going and we need at least another 50cm to get the zone working.
Up high around Gills Knob was scoured icy stuff.
Just a heads up. Am currently up bogong an have seen large avi debris in the gully next to tombstone (death cookie I think). The crown adjacent to the cornice was nearly a metre deep. Had a little dig down lower, seems to be a couple of layers, one about 15cm down which seems to be a 1cm icy crust, the other about 50cm down that appears to be the previous base. Anyway, I am no expert, so I am going to back things off a bit. I will put up some pics in a couple of days. Take care.
Thanks for the Intel
Waking in the daylight at 4 mile. Such a cushy hut with great atmosphere. Could almost hear the ghosts of the bullocks and pick axes echoing through the night.
Definitely skiable. Looked better under moonglow. But some hazards to watch out for.
Very much trail touring conditions. A bit ugly off trail in the lumpy tussocks.
Day 2, skied from 4 mile to Happy's hut. Only not skiable for that silly north facing hill about 2km SE of the Dip. But very thin in places.
Had an arvo chill out, then had a bit of a walk to Brooks for the night, which I'd never visited before.
It's a nicely rebuilt hut, with perfect morning sunshine. No toilet though, had to use the shovel to hack into the frozen ground.
I planned to wait here for @tele-whippet to do the key swap. I had plenty of supplies. But then I had a feeling, much like Scott had probably felt, that no help was coming. Fortunately, I had another option besides waiting and starving to death...
A bit of walking this morning. Decided to return a slightly different route, so headed up Arsenic creek to the junction about 700m west of Happy's, then climb up on snowgrass leads onto the final bit of Arsenic ridge. Missed most of the regrowth, but I would not recommend trying to ski down it given current cover! Skis on, up Bolton's trail, then back on tabletop trail.
The section past TTop was nice, but the slopes of the peak weren't filled in at all. No desire to summit and ski down, it cried out broken leg terrain.
Noticeable snow loss in the sun today. Still good above 1600, but 1500 had less than 5cm, and will disappear quickly.
J looming in the distance, but again looked like upper slopes poorly filled in.
Fun 48 hours. Skied about 42 km, walked 8km.
And the boots were lovely (@Bloke I'll weigh them for you when I get home, but about 1250g per boot).
My old boots were TLT5 Mtns that had been punched out several times as far as they would go, but still gave me foetal position bone pain across the forefoot after half a day.
They have a similar feel in touring mode, and felt a bit stiffer on the one run down Selwyn at the end of today, so hardly definitive.
Glad to say, no snow poles or picnic tables found beyond Selwyn...
That's the spirit.
Which way did you go to get down from the fire trail to happys hut? I took a crappy route there last year, it was a bit of a bush bash. Wondered if there was a better way.
Nice to be on your own ( as in - no additional "timber"). Shame telewhippet stood you up - what's with the green nose protector? Suggest you get a merkin for a nose protector - much better coverage!
Heading for my first aussie touring this season, are the huts up there open to public? as in anyone can stay there? or whats teh story with them?
If Your a New Zealander, Your in for disappointment.
Most huts are open to the public and free to stay at. Some huts are meant for day use or emergency overnight use only. Either way it's often better to pitch a tent nearby and use the hut for cooking and socialising.
Cheers thought this would be the case.
Was planning on pitching a tent anyways
What are your plans, it might be worth mentioning specific huts and we can let you know what each offers and if they are open to the public.
School holiday crowds are insane. Will head out back after lunch. The twins ridgeline looks nice. Such a crisp day. Very speccy views towards crosscut saw, howitt and what i think is mt reynard or wellington?
Howitt is calling me. Monday im going for 5 nights. Whose coming
@tcross dropping in
#thincover #bailedout #rock #thetwins
Yesterday playing in the Ramshead
Large skier trigged avi on Bogong http://mountainsportscollective.com/index#/north-east-alpine-np-advisory/
Huge. Lots of snow up high
Bet whoever it was that triggered that ( OK, so who did it?!) was extremely bloody pleased to be able to watch it disappear below, and needed some new undies afterwards! Big chunk of snow, and probably similar risk off the side of Eskdale.
Nice couple of days up Bogong.
Ah. Got it. Nice piccies BTW. Like really really nice. Thx
Snow cover looks pretty good, and a blue bird day! Planning for 1st weekend August - can someone please measure the saw at Michell's and I'll take some new saw blades?
Gonna be brutal up there from monday!
I'm having trouble understanding why N/NW seems to be bringing snow these days - I recall it was normally SW fronts bought snow during my youth....
?..maybe need to look at weather bit of forum.
Nice photos @chokenchickin, tbh that looked pretty obvious as a chance to go, whoever ski cut it would have got a big buzz on though! Typical slide IMO.
The snow is coming as a result of cold air from the south. But the precipitation is heaviest at the front end. At which point the air flow is from the north west, rotating clockwise around the associated low.
That air has travelled from down south but wraps around the low and hits the mountains from the north west.
Then it comes down to oragraphic effects. When it blows from the south west, falls, hotham, and moreso thredbo and perisher are in the rain shadow of buller and the mountains further south west.
Weird season, obviously weird conditions. Lots of temperature gradients. Choose gentle gradients and hold out till spring probably. The next systems could make for some dangerous conditions, especially on Boges
Some rain should solidify things?
Today's conditions (Thursday) at DHG / Cascades
Got an infographic for that SB??
And a realtime example on the looped satellite image:
Thanks for that photo @chokenchickin - a great shot of some wannabe on skimo race skis! hope to see you up there again soon.
Another shot from yesterday. Such a nice part of the world. I want to explore more of it this season. Love those snowgum covered ridges...so easy to get around with dynafit gear
Twins is one of the great unsung day-trips of Oz. So easy, so beautiful, such awesome views, collects good snow and has some burly terrain.
Some chatter, from the late 1920s in Victoria.
from: http://trove.nla.gov.au/version/182625724 (The donor, Ms Jan Harper, is the daughter of Stuart McPhee.)
Nelse. Late season, I'd suggest.
En route to Mt. Nelse some of the members indulged in snow sports [picture] / W. Howieson.
The others were quite happy to look on from the top / W. Howieson
Guessing this is a modern day view, from well below the melted cornice above. From: http://forums.ski.com.au/xf/threads/spion-kopje-mt-nelse-edmonsens-hut-tr-12-14th-aug-2011.48536/
By Twins do you mean twin humps, ie. far side of LBC, or some other place?
( if so feel like sharing? always after good day trips )
No, Victoria. Park car at (closed) Dargo turnoff, follow track up cutting the Wang rope tow on Mt St Bernard. Track goes round and down about ?4km before you start climbing the Twins. You cant really see the skiable aspects from the road, although you can generally get an idea from Hotham where the east face is visible.
FYI, Wild Earth are holding a 5 day stocktake sale at the moment.
New Skins, just trimmed to fit. Freeze Pro in the UK for $136 AUD shipped. Took about a week to get here.