The $A260 day pass

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by The Snow Gauge, Jan 6, 2017.

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    The Snow Gauge

    The Snow Gauge Active Member

    My sister is tripping around on an Epic Pass and having a great time but was kind of blown away by the $US189 ($A260) day pass at Vail.

    I wrote a bit about it:

    http://thesnowgauge.net/australia/would-you-pay-us189-for-a-days-lift-pass/

    So the question is does the best value season pass justify the worst value day pass in your opinion?

    PS: Her husband subsequently just told me they wanted $US249 for a half day kids group ski lesson. Wow! Is it becoming just like the airlines where your base product represents good value but you get stung every other step of the way?
     
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    Chowder11

    Chowder11 Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Trying to get the locals to buy season passes and the travellers epic passes so they vist more of their resorts during their travels id guess.

    Its pretty crazy though, kinda writes off Vail for a stop-over unless you have coin to burn
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    It's not crazy, it's just a business strategy. One that appears to be working very well.
     
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    Chowder11

    Chowder11 Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Disagree sorry.
    $189US for a day pass is crazy no matter what.
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    "Crazy" from whose perspective? Vail's? I doubt it. The only thing crazy about it is if someone actually pays it.
     
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    JoeKing

    JoeKing Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Isn't that the point of Vail?
     
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    Jellybeans1000

    Jellybeans1000 Dedicated Member

    It's for those who are cashed up.
     
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    The Snow Gauge

    The Snow Gauge Active Member

    Seems to be working as a business model but does the average person just forgo just about everything else associated with the resort? A $A350 half day group lesson is hella expensive!
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    The point is to have the overwhelming majority of people who ski at Vail hold an Epic Pass. If someone rocks up and pays exorbitant day ticket prices, it's a bonus.
     
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    Harper11

    Harper11 Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    So it's five days for the same price as s season pass
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Vail don't do half day group lessons. A normal kid's full day group lesson is US$200 I think. Ski lessons in the major US resorts are very expensive.
     
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    JoeKing

    JoeKing Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Ah right. I see. Sorry was in a info time warp.
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    BTW, day lift ticket prices at other Coloradan resorts that don't offer really cheap season passes like Aspen and Steamboat aren't that much better.
     
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    teckel

    teckel Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    So they don't want daytrippers. They want people staying at accommodation.
     
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    Chowder11

    Chowder11 Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Been many years since I skiied vail.
    But it is marketed as the rich and famous resort alongside is little brother down the road in Beaver creek
     
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    Harper11

    Harper11 Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Surely season pass holders are daytrippers in big numbers?
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    And they want the largest share of Front Rangers possible.

    The whole point of the Epic Pass is to make season-long skiing very cheap so that it is hard to resist.
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Correct.
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    encouraging people to go Copper Mountain?
     
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    Harper11

    Harper11 Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Will whistler be on epic pass next season?
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Yes, but details won't be known until March.
     
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    absentskier

    absentskier Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Copper has a pretty similar approach. Walk-up lift tickets are USD150, although closer to USD100 online. Cheap season pass though and plenty of options (such as the combined Winter Park/Copper pass that also includes 6 days at Steamboat, 3 at Crested Butte and even 7 days at Cardrona for about USD500). Competition is fierce!
     
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    Harper11

    Harper11 Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    So whistler will be full of Aussies for the school holidays even more than usual with the exchange rate and epic pass

    Still probably go there myself
     
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    The Snow Gauge

    The Snow Gauge Active Member

    Hmmm ... literally just messaged me this morning about that price as they were looking into it ...
     
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    CarveMan

    CarveMan aussieskier.com Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Well they do have to cover the high instructors wages...oh....wait.....

    (Actually I was very well paid by Vail in 98/99/2000 but things have apparently changed a lot)
     
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    The Snow Gauge

    The Snow Gauge Active Member

    The Heavenly-Northstar-Kirkwood combo was pretty good. Did it last season. Prices still not bad at Kirkwood in particular. Expedition Kirkwood did a three-hour lesson/mountain tour for two people and it was $180 in total from memory which I thought was good.
     
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    Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    You'd want a lady to take you out for the day and snow blowey's on demand for that sort of coin.
     
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    blutek

    blutek Dedicated Member

    Park City day ticket is only US$126.
    Could be A$126 at Perisher this year?
     
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    MarkGC

    MarkGC Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Exorbitant day pass makes multi day passes look like good value, multi day skiers are around longer to spend more coin. As others have said, Vail seems to know what they are doing.
     
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    sbm

    sbm Dedicated Member Season Pass Silver

    The serious skiers and boarders will get a Mountain Collective, the ones who think they're serious get an Epic pass, the misanthropes and romantic idealists go and ski the backcountry, and the wealthy families have the money to do whatever they really want when it comes down to it.

    This leaves beginners of moderate means who want to try out skiing. They spend a $500 on lift lesson and rental for a single weekend in addition to exorbitant mountain town holiday costs, fall on their arse a lot, say "well that was ok but a bit of a ripoff, I'm going back to my Crossfit gym and ultimate frisbee league". And the ski industry and community continues to flatline.
     
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    JoeKing

    JoeKing Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Thank you.
    :clap:
     
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    Seth

    Seth Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Vail is povo compared to BC.
     
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    Seth

    Seth Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Exactly.

    Don't want to pay, go to somewhere like Lovelands.

    You've got choices in the US. Make one.
     
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