Resource the 2017 euro thread

Discussion in 'Europe' started by piolet, Apr 4, 2016.

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    piolet

    piolet Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Well I've been waiting all season sitting out whilst thinking of February 2017 LOL
    So, here's the humble start for next season.

    Rough planning a family trip to France in late February to mid march 2017.

    Pending leave and family falling into place i am opimistic :D

    Hoping to snow plough my way down the bunny slopes with my eldest monkey and the grand parents to look after the youngest LOL

    Will be lots of dinking about so I may pack my tele gear for fun and i hope to get a few tours in :D a cravasse rescue reminder will be needed

    Hot damn i love the alps
     
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    CarveMan

    CarveMan aussieskier.com Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Guess we'll try and do the Dolomites again. But not if there's no snow.
     
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    Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    haha - i didn't have the balls to make my thread the 'europe 2017 thread'
     
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    piolet

    piolet Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Not worth putting the ovaries on the line, planning help is great in these threads but can get buried by other stuff so a separate thread can be a good idea and muse away in here :D
     
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    XTREMO

    XTREMO Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    A week in Ischgl (or maybe Fiss/Ladis/Serfaus), a week in Val D'Isere and hopefully 4-7 dayer somewhere in Italy if the conditions are right. Bring it.
     
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    Zeroz

    Zeroz Dedicated Member

    Alagna! Or maybe Alagna:(
    Our third try. Not enough snow first two times so went elsewhere. Plus a few weeks skiing TBD.
     
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    Kimski

    Kimski Well-Known Member

    So far I've got flights booked Adelaide to London and Milan to Adelaide. After overnighting at a Heathrow Hotel (resisted the temptation to spend more time in London) I'm flying from Heathrow to Salzburg and then on to Saalbach for a week. After that I'm still deciding what to do with my remaining week and half. I could ski a week in the Dolomites, followed by a few days in Rome, ski somewhere else in Austria or even go further to Switzerland. My life is so tough sometimes LOL
     
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    CarveMan

    CarveMan aussieskier.com Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Monte Rosa is a cruel mistress. I'm 0-2 there, but still super keen.

    It's partially my fault as we've gone there when Cham was shut down, so it was hardly going to be that good only a couple of hundred km away, but riding Indren and seeing the potential.......
     
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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Do the Fiss/ Serfaus thing. As good as Arlberg IMO.
     
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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Could do a budget visit to Cham to do some ice axe swinging and roped up sculldugery on the bluebird days and mix in some moments on the planks.
     
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    Pat42

    Pat42 Dedicated Member

    doesnt seem to get get nearly as much snow base was around 60-70 cms when i was there and it was 140cms in lech

    looks like a great area though
     
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    XTREMO

    XTREMO Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    That was this season, right Pat42? Austria has had a weird couple of years. Some super snow sure resorts like Ischgl have had shockers this season and last.
     
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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    The trick is to find areas that require less cover to be skiable.
     
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    Pat42

    Pat42 Dedicated Member

    yeah this season

    voralberg had plenty, seems to be that generally the further you get from the northern flanks the drier it gets, the systems that hit ischgl and serfaus have generally already dumped alot of their snow over the arlberg etc
     
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    XTREMO

    XTREMO Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    yeah I am dead keen to check it out after seeing your recommendations.

    What's the apres ski scene like there?
     
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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Limited but good . The Hexenalm is the classic 3-6 pm madness. The Hackl Keller bar for later is the pick.
     
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    tele-whippet

    tele-whippet beard stroker Season Pass Gold

    Undecided for the next northern winter ----- still have an open offer for free accomodation in Anzere --- too spoilt.
    Maybe other destinations on the horizon.
    Just concentrating on having a great winter here atm :)
     
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    Bato

    Bato Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Im working in Davos again 3rd Oct until 17th April.
     
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    Karbon

    Karbon Active Member

    Otztal and Dolomites for me :).
    Late Dec / early Jan so fingers crossed for an early season for once.
     
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    Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold


    We might see you somewhere!
     
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    Chester

    Chester Dedicated Member

    Most of Europe has had a well-below-average season, this season and last. Some places have fared better than others, but overall the past two seasons have been fairly disappointing to say the least.
     
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    Chester

    Chester Dedicated Member

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    Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    So I am doomed to always plan a holiday!

    Not sure if anyone remembers that I had booked a great deal on accom in Plan Peisey that I could cancel...

    Turns out I was wrong. Yes we can cancel prior to October but at a cost of 500 euros.

    So now we pray to Ullr. Although we will still have access to all Paradiski (and other resorts in the region)

    And it has certainly made the decision on hiring a car easier (so we can have wheels to go to other resorts, if connecting lifts aren't running)

    We have also decided to get a Eurorail pass for the rest of our time and YK has come up with an ambitious travel agenda.

    Including Iceland!
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Don't think a Eurorail pass will help you in Iceland ;)
    If you are looking at those - there are the all of Europe ones as well as individual and combinations of countries passes.
    http://www.eurail.com/eurail-passes
     
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    Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Haha - Thanks Heinz.

    I know it doesn't help us get to Iceland! I have done a Eurorail pass before.

    Patiently waiting for the next deal to come out. Winter passes are usually cheaper than summer ones. (ie the ones that are on that site currently)

    Getting to Iceland we are prob going to fly from Copenhagen up to Reykjavik.

    If anyone has some tips for Iceland. I would love to hear them! Prob goign to spend about 4 days. I have never done much research on Iceland - it was never a place i ever thought i would go (ie not because i didn't want to but just i have a list of places I want to go to and Iceland wasn't on it!)

    My initial research is that we shouldn't just stay in the capital Reykjavik however doing the circle road would be about a week...
     
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    Kimski

    Kimski Well-Known Member

    Things could be worse. As you said, if you have a car there's so many options in the area. Just make sure it's not front wheel drive ;) Think of it as one less decision to make.
     
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    Chester

    Chester Dedicated Member

    On the contrary, make sure IT IS front wheel drive.
     
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    Mike Pow

    Mike Pow Well-Known Member

    This is key.
     
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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    As long as its insured and slides nicely in rally mode ;)
     
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    tr+h

    tr+h Dedicated Member

    Looking at being in London and Birmingham for the first week on April. Mrs would like to then do 10 days in Rome and Tuscany. That would then give us the last 10 days of April to ski somewhere. I was looking at 5 or 6 days around chaminox, then A drive by lake Como, followed by 3-4 days at Solden. We would finish with the first week of May in Venice and fly home from there.

    From Tuscany, would we be better off staying and skiing in Italy at that time of the year?
     
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    tr+h

    tr+h Dedicated Member

    Maybe Tuscany to lake Garda, followed by Soelden, followed by CORTINA .?
     
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    Chester

    Chester Dedicated Member

    Over the past month warm temperatures and a lot of rain have destroyed the snow right up to almost 3000m. I'd be trying to go as high as possible, somewhere you can ski glaciers.
     
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    tr+h

    tr+h Dedicated Member

    agree
    But it's a whole year away! La Niña ? Epic conditions? Who knows? We asked for an epic Canadian season and got it this year!
     
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    Chester

    Chester Dedicated Member

    Oops, I read the last week of April rather than the first. In that case, there is no answer to the original question.
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    You are doing it in the wrong order. Ski in early April then do the other stuff.
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    way too late for Cortina I would say (skiing wise) - see previous.
     
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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    April is prime Ski Touring time. Grab some skins and book some huts on the Haute Route or Oberlander.
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Yeah, this - but not sure it would be what the Mrs would have been thinking.
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    OK my suggestions.

    I am assuming you are committed to the English portion at the start. So once you get to the mainland go skiing straightway. Chamonix will still be fine, but in mid April there will still be a few other possibilities.

    Then you can head to Sölden for up to a week. Time it so that you finish the time there around April 21 for the Hannibal show. Mid April you will still have a mix of alpine and glacier skiing - the alpine will be fine in the morning, but turns to slush, so that is when to head up to the glacier. If you go later season you are pretty much restricted to the glacier and you'd get bored with that after a couple of days.

    After that head to Italy at the end and forget the skiing.
     
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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Murren / Schilthorn would still be ok then.
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

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    person s

    person s Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    I'm contemplating St Johann im Pongau with steprelos
    I know nothing of this place but it appears to connect with a largish ski area
     
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    person s

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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    I remember posting from Fiss in 06/ 07 with the same problem. Using the hotel keyboard.
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

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    person s

    person s Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    so, is it any good or should I just go to Japan or Canada/USA?
     
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    Heinz

    Heinz Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Can't comment on St Johann specifically but being part of Salzburger Sportwelt which is part of Ski Amade which itself is one of the regions included in the Salzburger Super Ski pass you have almost unlimited amazing options available especially if you have a few weeks or more. You don't need to be stuck on one hill!
    http://www.salzburgerland.com/en/ski-board/super-ski-card/22-ski-regions.html

    Have a play with this - looks pretty cool.
    http://www.skiamade.com/en/winter/skiresorts/3d-panorama
     
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    Kletterer

    Kletterer Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Its good. Only 30 minutes to Badhofgastein as well . If the snow is crap drive to Kaprun / Kitz Glacier. The road to Zell area is slightly windy with lots of built up areas but flows ok on changeover days
     
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    person s

    person s Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    brilliant - thanks!