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Discussion in 'Equipment' started by shnilly, May 5, 2012.

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    shnilly

    shnilly New Member

    Hi. I live in Sydney and ski mostly Perisher and Japan. Im heading over to Japan in Jan for 4 weeks nd looking for some new skis. I currently ride Elan 88xtis at 176cm. Last year in Japan i rode a pair of Kung Fujas (i think at 179cm) and am looking to purchase a pair before i head over next year. I have an opportunity to buy a pair of 189cm for a very very good price (they dont have 179). I am a fairly competent skier - enjoy off piste and am comfortable on Black runs. In peoples opinion do you thin the 189cm would be too long? I am 183cm and weigh in at about 95Kg. I will be skiing mostly off piste and a fair bit through trees. My gut feeling is they will be too long but thought id ask around.

    Cheers

    Nick
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    damian

    damian Addicted Member

    Potentially not too long at all. How much tip rocker do they have?

    In Japan I ski 112mm waisted skis that are 12cm taller than I am. And I am a light weight. I can enjoy longer faster more stable skis than perhaps I could otherwise handle thanks to heavy tip rocker.
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    Olgreg

    Olgreg Well-Known Member

    I ride cambered skis at 175 in Australia, and I go to 188 rockered skis in Japan...Rossi S7's. No problems at all. I'm your height but lighter, so you won't find the KF's too long, especially if they are as lively as the reviews say.
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    Liberty Skis

    Liberty Skis Well-Known Member

    Hey Shnilly,

    The length is spot on, don't go shorter.
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    shnilly

    shnilly New Member

    Thanks guys! Much appreciated! I will grab the 189s. For $400 for the 2012 model with bindings Id be stupid not to :)
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    BoofHead

    BoofHead Well-Known Member

    Good price and he length is good
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    dawooduck

    dawooduck Old And Crusty

    Get some IDONE MR-CE skis... the moguls in Japan are awesome
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    Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler Dedicated Member

    Most of us only ski moguls in Japan if we don't get out of bed before lunchtime!
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    Vermillion

    Vermillion Pool Room

    And it hasnt snowed for 3 days.
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    sly_karma

    sly_karma Part of the Furniture Season Pass Holder

    Dissenting opinion - 189 will be a handful in steep trees. Snow contact length doesnt mean much when you have to stuff 'em through gaps. OK for big open terrain but unnecessarily hard work in the tight stuff.
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    BoofHead

    BoofHead Well-Known Member

    Don't know whereabouts in Japan OP is skiing but steep trees are'nt an issue at Niseko or Furano.
    Nothing too steep and the trees are generally not too tight.
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    TropicalPow

    TropicalPow Dedicated Member


    Remember reading an article on the science of float and width was more important than length for float in powder, given equal surface area.
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    Chowder11

    Chowder11 Dedicated Member

    go bigger, go fatter.
    I ski 189 with a 115m waste everywhere.
    Pow
    Trees
    Steeps
    Groomers
    Slush
    (Only issue is ice, Avoid at all costs)
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    Liberty Skis

    Liberty Skis Well-Known Member

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    CarveMan

    CarveMan aussieskier.com Moderator Commercial Member

    I rocked those in 1993
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    dawooduck

    dawooduck Old And Crusty

    Ski shops are like brothels these day ... a ride for every taste

    the beauty of Japan is that it can be enjoyed on any ski
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    damian

    damian Addicted Member

    well gee, I've seen that proven wrong repeatedly by people who would otherwise be regarded as competent skiers.

    If you avoid moguls (hard at Happo!) then there is no reason besides obscure personal preference to ever have a sub 100mm ski in Japan in winter. Even if you never leave the piste.
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    dawooduck

    dawooduck Old And Crusty

    weird how the majority of the local population don't use +100s then damian
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    damian

    damian Addicted Member

    If you want to now weird and skiing: Japan. What the Japanese do on snow has little bearing on "a good idea".

    Anyway, see where I said this:

    Well, the Japanese are obsessed with [really strange off-balance looking] carving and moguls.

    And to be even more correct, at many resorts, most Japanese snowboard, not ski. So they do use 100+ [​IMG]

    Lets be friends, I am prepared to downgrade my 100 to a skinny 90.
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    dawooduck

    dawooduck Old And Crusty

    I am cool with it all and have formed the opinion recently that owning skis is a limiting experience when the hire shop is choca block full of different skis inspired by "obscure personal preferences". The local Japanese may have an obsession with organised carving but many of them can ski very well indeed.
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    damian

    damian Addicted Member

    A well put thought. [​IMG]

    And just to be clear for others: I never meant to suggest that +100 was needed for Japan. That would be a silly thing to say. All I meant to say was that IMHO I can not find any reason to go below 100mm, or the newly ratified 90mm per the Peace Process.
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    dawooduck

    dawooduck Old And Crusty

    ratified .... good name for a ski