Question New Backcountry Ski Pants

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Vanders, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. Vanders

    Vanders Active Member

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    My old faithful Mont Syncro backcountry pants have endured a bashing over the last maybe 7-8 years, and now need a retirement.
    I'd like to say that I've worn them out (they've survived a lot) but they're shrinking i swear! -ok ok, I've gotten fat...

    Can anyone recommend backcountry ski pants for Australian (wet & icy) conditions?

    I've absolutely loved the Mont design, but funds are tight this year.
     
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  2. ajmit3

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    Black Diamond Dawn Patrol - can get them cheap. Did 18 days in japan with them. I think they would translate well to Aus as well. Get em from Barrabes or snowinn.
     
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    Check out the Montbell optins
     
  4. Kletterer

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    The Outdoor Research Cirque is a good durable one.
     
  5. Fozzie Bear

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    Second this. Got a pair at beginning of year. The Mont Gore-Tex shell pants will stay in the bottom of the gear bin.
     
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    Dynafit Mercury soft shell dacks.
    Arcteryx Goretex jobbies layered over the top for inclement conditions.
     
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    What ever you choose consider ones with scuff pads on the inside leg to protect from ski edge damage.
     
  8. piolet

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    Softshell ftw
     
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  9. Vanders

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    how do you guys find the softshell pants in a storm? I'd like to avoid carrying extra overpants...

    I've found softshell jackets to range from amazing to terrible.
     
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    They should have a good length zip in the calf area, so if bushwalking or skiing in the base layers and the rain/snow/strong wind comes, you can put them on while wearing boots.
     
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    That's been my thing with softshell jackets, I never take them touring as I have to take a hard shell as well.
     
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    Softshell can be fine, depends on assessment of the conditions, location and the season. For some cases, hardshell only is best, but in winter where there is more snow than rain, it takes longer for moisture to penetrate the layers.
     
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    @Kletterer @Fozzie Bear no troubles with these and wearing a pack? Softshell is super comfy... I am tempted.
     
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    No troubles, also ok for a climbing harness. Missus loves the OR hiking/climbing pants as well- tried and tested on short and long walks with up to 20 kg rucksack.
     
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    @Vanders only got them at the beginning of the year, so haven't had a chance to wear them in anger.... so far a dozen lift assisted alpine skiing days in Yourope and Oztralia. However, other than in rain (and i try to avoid skiing in unconstituted snow) these soft shell pants (and they are supposed to be climbing pants) are the duck's nuts and they are now my default lower half wear.
     
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    Arcteryx Theta SV
     
  17. Vanders

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    Those look fantastic, but $$$!
     
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    I just got some Patagonia Triolet, look great, again $$$
     
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    Ive been using a pair of Mont Tempest for the past 7 years, a little cheaper and lighter than the Syncro. Excellent shell type pants, really comfortable and lightweight, but starting to get a bit thin in the seat area. It would be good if they had some extra reinforcement there.
    Contemplating replacing them with the same again or the Syncro.
    Only fault I have with them is how they sit at the boot area. They tend to stick out a bit like Canadian mounted police pants, between the boot and knee. My fashion police kids and wife do tend to let me know about that!
     
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    You been sitting on rough surfaces? Cutout a bit of foam mat and use it for sitting when out and about.
     
  21. Vanders

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    Haha, I've outgrown my syncro and my wife kindly informs me that they look like 70's tights....
    I love how tough the syncro are, and the drop-seat feature is great when you 'have to go' in a hurry.
     
  22. ocker

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    I have had a jacket and set of backcountry overalls INOC from Aldi for about 5 years, have worn them to Siberia and multiple back country trips to central Hokkaido and could not have been happier with them. A couple of guides have asked where did you get that nice gear from (err the supermarket). Too late for Aldi sale for this season, idea if you can hold out until next season.
     
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  23. satanas

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    I'd also recommend softshells, since they stretch and are much more breathable. I have some OR softshell pants with integral gaiters and large zip vents, and they've been excellent in all conditions so far. Yes, one needs to carry some sort of waterproof layer in case of torrential rain, but this can be light, and doesn't need to be expensive; the sofshell fabric deals well with snow and light rain, as long as the latter is intermittent.

    Personally, I'd never wear Goretex or such as a default layer for BC skiing or touring, but I've found softshell fabrics comfortable for both, and for resort skiing. Decent merino underwear helps too.
     
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  24. telecrag

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    I think I got the last pair of Synchro in L the other day, the model has been discontinued. New model looks pretty good, lighter, but not as light as the Tempest, with more reo. I still have the Tempest for touring, but got the Synchro for resort.
     
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    That was direct from the source, they are probably still in shops.

    Can you wait for the factory sale and either get to Canberra or get someone to buy for you? Generally a rrp of $430ish goes for $250ish in the sales.
     
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    I just picked up a pair of these on Friday! Didn't really need any more ski pants but saw them a few months ago and was really impressed although the price put me off a bit, they are more exxy than other soft shells around. Anyway, Birthday next week so
    a pressie from the wife!
    https://rab.equipment/eu/calibre-pants-11
     
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    Happy Birthday for next week. Hope you get to try out the new gear soon. I will be in W.A. that week ( for Richo's birthday), so with any luck it should dump then. Maybe catch up for some touring after that.
     
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    Thanks, just waiting for the next big dump! Very good of you to go to WA for Richo's birthday! Also happy birthday for the 15th IIRC. It get's bloody depressing as you approach "three score and ten" as they used to say.
    Are you Hoppeting this year?
     
  29. pegasusSki

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    Seconded: love my OR pants. Great ventilation too. Think I might have the heavier version with reinforced ankles and thigh length zips.
     
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  30. AndrewA

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    I used to use soft shell pants, but weighed them, and was surprised as to how heavy they were. Now just use merino under 300g Cabelas goretex paclite or RAB event pants as my ski pants. No probs with sweat, wind or rain. And if they're reasonably dry at the end of the day, I just chuck my down pants over them, and sleep in the whole lot under a light quilt ( with down jacket and sometimes tele inner boots too! Works a treat.
     
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    I'm happy with the Cirque too. Link

    They're not waterproof, but shed snow well. I like the stretchy fit.They fit tightly over my Black Diamond Seeker boots, you might want to take your big boots when you try them on.

    I've worn these as a middle layer in Japan too.

    Most of my gear I've had for decades and I've decided the to shift the tradeoff back towards lightness vs durability, YMMV.
     
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    I don't wear any soft shell gear. Didn't like the earlier products so steered clear. I prefer the durability of hard shell for the work I do in the snow and the type of skiing I mostly do.

    I wear Trew Gear's, Trewth Bib and Cosmic jacket.
     
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