Leaving Australia is harder than it needs to be

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  1. JoeKing

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    Never had this happen and I always use a different address on the immigration form to the address I use for the electoral roll. But I have lots of other stuff at each address so they may cross check that and realise both addresses are valid.
     
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    A bit off topic, but who cares>
    I find it annoying when contacting Telstra for example
    A recording will ask you to input your telephone or account number in the interests of speeding up service, then every time you are transferred, to a person or machine, you are asked for the same information over and over!
    :mad:
     
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    I'm not completely sold on optional voting either, BTW. The bitter polarisation and attack ad campaigns that characterise American politics are largely designed to enrage same-thinking voters enough to get off their vote and actually vote. No one cares about undecided voters, those guys likely won't vote anyway so courting them is a complete WOFTAM. (The Aussie system produces the opposite effect: endless jostling to secure the middle of the road vote, whatever that is). The Americans and Canadians could improve things by going to the preferential voting system used in Australia, that would result in the occasional election of an independent or minor party candidate (ie, Greens) and general disruption to the two-party hate fest.
     
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    Same as BKK unfortunately when transitting
     
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    Because you got naughty stuff out of your checked bag while you were doing customs.
     
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    Compulsory voting only makes political candidates even more lazy. When I was a kid, we would have candidates from all parties knocking on the door at every election. In my 43 years of married life, I can only recall 2 candidates who have visited (1 Labour, 1 Liberal). For the last 20 years, there has been someone at home nearly all the time, & we have NEVER had a card left saying "sorry we missed you" or the like, and we live in a marginal electorate. You hear the lying b****rds on the election broadcasts saying how hard they have worked and that they have door knocked every house in the electorate. If they actually had to WORK to get you to vote, I bet it would make quite a difference.
     
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    Frankly if a candidate was silly enough to go around door knocking in this day and age (in a city electorate) I'd feel very doubtful about voting for them. Pollies hang out in shopping centres and train stations for a reason - efficiency.

    YMMV in a more rural town environment, or somewhere with a large percentage of old people.
     
  9. Charlie

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    It sounds like Karma for adding that crap to your coffee!
     
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    What they should do is think about a departing form that you can fill out online as a pre-departure application process and at the same time charge us $19 for it.
     
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    All the data on the pre-depart form is already in the check-in system anyway. Surely they can write code to extract how long a visitor was in the country. The wages and facilities used to collect this unnecessary form could be used to improve flow through pre flight security.
     
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    Vanilla in your coffee? Got what you deserved.
     
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    I think Qwill got yarted by Charlie.
     
  14. Charlie

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    Not an uncommon event!
    :evil:
     
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    Last time the mrs and i left aussie for home (NZ) she ticked "resident leaving permanently" as she doesnt, hasnt, and probably wont live there again.. They refused to let her tick the box and instead put "leaving for one year" Nice little way to avoid statistics about aussies heading across the ditch!
     
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    Same happened to me. None of the options properly covers expats leaving Australia after a visit home.
     
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    When I was FIFO back to NZ got so sick of the form used to alternate every three weeks if I was holidaying or permanently leaving from either NZ or Aus no one seemed to care what was on the form for arrivals or departure.
     
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    Leaving dallas airport; check in, walk 30m to an organised relaxed security check. Walk 80m to gate.
    No surly immigration staff, no duty free shop mazes/gauntlets. Our airports are a disgrace
     
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    You're certainly right about the duty free shop gauntlet. Same embarrassingly blatant commercialism concept as walking from reception to elevators in a Vegas casino/hotel, you have to weave your way through hundreds of pokies. And Sydney international appears to be a parking business with an airport tacked on as an afterthought.
     
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    It was a breath of fresh air travelling through Canada (via NZ, not through the US).

    On the way in, there's a customs form. No immigration form, they just scan your passport. On the way out they just scan the passport - no forms at all. So simple.
     
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    Just ask them " How do I know your from Telstra" when they answer the call.

    Does their head in
     
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    I just flew out of Heathrow. Security is another world there and slow, however ticketing and border control lightening fast. On the latter - I was very surprised that no one looked at my passport at all. I got a boarding pass by showing a printed itinerary, I shoved the boarding pass in the 'Fast Lane' security at Terminal 4, and I arrived into the gate hall. No passport checks? Surprising.

    As far as Australia's forms go, I filled in the Ebola form this morning on the way back in, so there is another card to add to your list.
     
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    I filled that in, nobody bothered to take it off me when I arrived in Perth. Also, it's wider than a passport and doesn't fit into the plastic sleeve thing without folding it. Whoever designed it needs a good shake-down.
     
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    Exact same in Sydney. Huge song and dance about it, no collection.
     
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    God i hate that, if you give a wallet with a passport, make the freaking form the same size
     
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    Shits me. I looked at the Ebola form mid -flight on the way back from Canada, just thought it was a "safe travel" advisory.
    Filled out my bits of paper, got the express pass, hammered through everything til I got to the "Where's your Ebola form".......back to the back of the queue while I filled out all the family history stuff....got to the "have you been to Africa?" Simply NO. Back into the queue etc etc.
    Got to the final "hand over your bits of paper" and that guy looked at the Africa question only ( I'm a grumpy old man and I observed very closely) and he chucked it in the big box ( read "trash") and sent me on my way.
    Is there really a flock of folks typing all the data of these hundreds of thousands of bits of paper into the system? North America to Oz direct flights do not pass anywhere near Ebola....sorry, Africa.
    Sometimes....just....What?
    Rant maybe Over.
     
  27. piolet

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    If you use the epassport kiosk you don't need the ebolaids form as you make the declaration on the kiosk screen.
     
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    I am fricken old.
    I have been through airports, e-tickets, 1st, biz, Cattle, questions. Follow the E-line, Declare/ Non-declare, scan/MRI, no Belt, remove shoes, laptop in the separate tray, no hankie in pocket, stop for drug swipe test, "why are you here", look into the camera, no your RIGHT thumbprint bullshit crap.
    Ebola? Shove it right up your ..........
    Sorry.., Rant over............maybe.
     
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    My personal disobedience at airports is a nylon belt with aluminium D-rings for a buckle. Haven't taken it off for security in years, never sets off the metal detector. I make a point of wearing it for every flight I take. Helps make the general foolishness that tiny bit more bearable.
     
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    I have a webbing belt with plastic buckles for this reason. Last year some twit in New York made me take it off because it is a belt. Rules for the sake of rules.
     
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    Shirt untucked over pants so belt isn't obvious. Even the Americans haven't called me on this one. My outfit for travelling requires a shirt with a breast pocket wide enough to hold passport and boarding pass, the aforementioned belt and old comfy skate shoes that I can step in and out of when passing by the American shoe police.
     
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    I call them out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME!
     
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    You rebel!
     
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    Filled out the brand new ebola form coming into BNE from LAX the other day.

    Contains pretty much all the same info as the usual incoming passenger card.

    As I was declaring meat, I had to go through the 'red' channels.

    As I was let through I insisted that the customs office take the ebola card seeing as I had gone to the trouble of filling it out.

    Customs officer did not like but accepted.
     
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    My wife is Asian descent. If she is in front in immigration we ALWAYS get the full bag search.

    When I go first we rarely get the full search even when we have stuff to declare
     
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    Often get the full search (and sometimes the sniffer dog treatment) when I come back from 2+ weeks skiing and no shaving.

    If I have shaved before flying back, straight through thankyou sir.

    Some grey coming into the holiday beard now though, so I'm hoping that makes me look a bit more respectable ;)
     
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    On our first trip I caught a terrible bug 2 days before arriving home pretty crook looked like sht after a long flight, come this way sir, and the customs women saying to snoopy.. " Find it" Find it".. Made me nervous...lol
     
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    Heheh yeah they dont mind profiling on their prejudices. I look pretty feral if i dont keep trim my holiday beard and get totally run through. Coming home from a long backpacking trip through peru etc years ago i looked thoroughly wild, with an epic trip home with a bad cold - must've looked pretty suss as it took a while LOL

    Yeah you notice when the chinese flights come in, customs go nuts - lots of weird shit is tried on from what I hear
     
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    The only time I have been searched was after a 10 day tramp in NZ. At least I had a shower but I was travelling alone and looked a bit scruffy. The customs guy lost interest after he started finding camping gear in my backpack (which shows how little he knew about bushwalkers).
     
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    Yeah. Fuct.
     
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    To be fair I know what some of her family bring back so it's not an unfair stereotype! We just laugh about it and try to get through as quickly as possible.

    I sometimes find it's quicker just to declare something completely innocent and then they let you skip the lines all together.
     
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    My favs during recent air travel to /from UK:

    Scanning carry on luggage twice when transferring (<1 hr in airport).

    Removing most individual items from one's daypack for scanning. Der it's an X-ray! }%^%# sake!

    Asked to place a wallet in plastic tray for scanning - what the??

    Taking off shoes when the only metal is the eyelets.

    Only 2-3 counters open at immigration despite hundreds of passengers, then slowly adding one or two more! ditto scanning carry on.

    All the paper boarding passes and stubs despite the electronic ticketing.

    Being with kids, asked to line up to board plane before other economy guests, only to wait half an hour as we were in the 'wrong zone' of the AB380.

    Trains:
    Showing passport twice in 10m at StPancras, London for the Eurostar to Paris. first UK then French. (To be fair, have to show it to the French at some point!)
     
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    Pig out on a big chocolate bar as you go through and they wont hassle you.
     
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    Had 1 dopey dude that found it hard to believe the shovel and probe were for skiing
     
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    Why do people always refer to USA voting when arguing about Australias compulsory voting, Nth America is irrelevant to the debate.
    We are a commonwealth country with a Westminster Political system derived from the UK and voting is not compulsory in the UK and as such no good reasons it should be here or any other commonwealth country with a Westminster Political system.

    It was created because there were not enough white men in Australia so we needed compulsory voting, but voter numbers were only limited back then due to the fact women and black people couldnt vote.
    It remains because politicians want to ensure they can keep theyre snouts in the trough and fear voting might be left only to those who are politically litterate and capable of seeing through political lies.
     
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    I get my secretary to complete a dozen departure cards for me every couple of months ... who fills that shit in themselves?!


    [edit- a bit not PC, I must stop it ...;)]
     
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    you think all this security stuff is BS, listen to this.

    For a Sydney to Cooma flight in an aircraft under 20 tonnes MTOW(maximum take off weight) - largest aircraft under 20 tonnes in OZ is a Dash 8-300 (50 seater)

    1) MUST go through security at SYD & pay for it (in your ticket taxes)
    2) no security whatsoever needed at Cooma

    for a 50 seater Fokker 50, which is just over 20 tonnes, security is needed at Cooma.
     
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    I saw someone vote twice(it was easy, but she had to go to 2 different booths).

    They got a letter & wrote back on it, that person who crossed out name, must have got it wrong.
     
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    Ummm you are admitting to electoral fraud on a public website as a commercially posting member?!?!

    I'm not going to say what I think because it would be against the guidelines and I would have to self moderate!
     
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    Vote early, vote often.