Japanese snow season 2016-17

Discussion in 'Weather' started by Sandy, Nov 23, 2016.

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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Booked shiga kogen for 5 nights

    Will try to get up zao tomorrow. See how the weather plays
     
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    Tennex

    Tennex Active Member

    Been dumping all morning at shiga
     
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    seekingpow

    seekingpow Dedicated Member

    IMO start of spring looking really solid for central japan
     
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    Seafm

    Seafm Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    The young bloke at hakuba reported everything on hold this morning due to lightning. Hope that has since changed.
     
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    Froff Life

    Froff Life Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    No where I could find either for lift status's in Zao, but it was very windy when I was there a few weeks ago and they are still able to run 1, if not more, gondolas, as well as the 3 chairs on the skiers left of the mountain. The wind can be brutal though, those snow monsters don't form for no reason!
     
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    bondibob

    bondibob Active Member

    I hope you are correct...but Can you pls explain to me why you think that is if you don't mind? I am hitting hakuba 3rd march for 7 days and starting to hope for at least one nipple deep pow day!
     
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    snowishing

    snowishing Active Member

    Yeah but what chairs are open? Only low ones here at yaketabetai/Oku.
     
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    seekingpow

    seekingpow Dedicated Member

    read the charts
     
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    hotsaki

    hotsaki Dedicated Member Season Pass Silver

    Been raining all morning here at Myoko.I predict snow two hours away.Not that I can go out,knee buggered.:(
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    This @Chondro . It gets very windy there, but it's mainly the peak that is super exposed. A lot of it is reasonably sheltered. Even on the most windy days they still had the top and bottom sections of the Zao ropeway running. Just avoid the top section unless you're super desperate to see what little you might be able to see of the ghosts. It was just about a total white out when I went up, and it's quite a flat trail. Utopia lifts can give you a pretty good look at them anyway.
     
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    Jellybeans1000

    Jellybeans1000 Dedicated Member

    The long term forecasts look pretty good ATM.
     
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    seekingpow

    seekingpow Dedicated Member

    yes indeed, staying pretty cold
     
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    Tennex

    Tennex Active Member

    We skied all day don't know the area no lifts down where we went
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    @Tennex how long are you in shiga for ?
    I arrive there tomorrow

    Did Zao Onsen today. Wind was minimal suprinsingly, considering the forecast.
    Snow was good quality up high, managed quiet a few face shots and some good stuff in the trees.
    Down low was heavy snow but still good until it started to rain around mid day
    Solidly rained until 3pm and came home pretty wet.

    Good day tho, Probably wouldnt bother visiting the mountain again tho, Fairly flat for the most part, and not the easiest to navigate, Visibility was pretty poor tho,
     
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    Tennex

    Tennex Active Member

    We are at shiga again tomorrow. They are expecting good snow over night. It turned to rain for about an hour today. Snowed for the rest but a but not light and dry. More like Aussie condition. But still had a great day. I guess we will see what tonight brings.
     
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    snowishing

    snowishing Active Member

    Useful...

    Gondy opened at 12.30 at oku/yakebitaiyama. 30-40cm of heavy pow above 1700m. Turned to glue in bottom bit but worth it.

    Shiga will be too windy tomorrow to get to any of the decent terrain IMO. We boosted out. Will be epic if the wind stays down
     
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    Tennex

    Tennex Active Member

    20 cm on the ground in yudanaka. Should be a big dump up top. See how the wind goes.
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Tried to get the bus from Nagano to Shiga Kogen. Got told nope. Only to snow monkeys and get the train.

    On a plus. Managed to sneak through in japan rail east south Hokkaido pass all the way to Nagano.
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Dumping at Chitose Airport.... Probably lucky to get in without delay
     
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    Froff Life

    Froff Life Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Haha sometimes the JR ticket inspectors at the gates just wave you through without even looking, especially if you give them a friendly 'ohayogozaimassss'
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    Yup, I had to go out of my way to get my pass stamped the other day. Shink desk and gate staff at Koriyama didn't even bother, just gave me a ticket and waved me through. Also, sorry for off topic Sandy, this stuff really belongs in the Japan 2017 thread.
     
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    LMB

    LMB Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Oooohhhhh is that an on the ground report @Sandy?! You're in Hokkaido? :thumbs:
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Yes..... Hired a car.... Snowing as usual!!!! ;)
     
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    Jon snow

    Jon snow Active Member

    Just having lunch now at Kokusai and its dumping outside! Knee deep all morning with some windblown stashes waist deep
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Just arrived at Shiga Kogen, Reports of 50cm last night and snowing well all day with a fair bit of wind.
    Still snowing pretty heavy now
     
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    snowishing

    snowishing Active Member

    About 30cm in car park in Yuzawa and anther 30cm throughout day. Top chair opened at 10.30am and rode untouched all day :D
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Shiga today is knee to waste deep in spots
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Currently raining in shiga and fairly windy.
    Had been since 4am
    Might be a day to find a nice onsen.
     
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    Froff Life

    Froff Life Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Snowing up top ?
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Freeze level looks like being around 2000m in central Japan, so it might be snowing above 1800m at Shiga Kogen
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Dunno. Maybe the last 100m of vertical looking out my window still has snow in trees.
    Rains stopped. Might go out for a look in a hour or two
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    2.3 degrees at Kutchan(near Niseko) this morning.... It may be raining at the bottom of Niseko, but not sure.
    Rusutsu it's snowing down to the bottom.
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Got to 3.9 degrees in Kutchan around 3pm, was sleeting/raining coming back into Niseko from Rusutsu around 4:30pm. Snowed all day at Rusutsu, I'd say because of an extra 250m of elevation.
    Snowing at Niseko now.....
     
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    pedub

    pedub Active Member

    How were conditions are Rusutsu? Kind of bummed I didnt get to ski there this season
     
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    Beerman

    Beerman Dedicated Member Season Pass Silver

    I hope the snow magnet is ready for Noz soon...........;)
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Have to deal with Hokkaido first!!!!! ;)
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Unlike the lower part of Niseko (I heard it was foul lower down after about 2pm), Rusutsu was very good all day. Snowed all day, but not wet, even lower down.
     
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    bondibob

    bondibob Active Member

    Any one willing to have a go at predicting the 1st week of march for hakuba area please?

    Looks like a good start to spring with N/e winds from what I can see
     
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    bengarden

    bengarden Active Member

    Likewise Niseko 1st+2nd weeks March. Looks like warming up with some r**n down low around the 2nd. Hope the colder temps return to more like this week :)
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Rusutsu boot top to knee deep(on the steeper lee side slopes) today..... :D
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Now it's sunny!!!!! :D
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    And snowing!!
     
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    LMB

    LMB Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Sunny AND Snowing - I think I've only ever experienced that in Hokkaido. It's so freaky!
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    A bit of that at Zao this year. SunSnowShower, or is there a more elegant name for it? o_O
     
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    Silence

    Silence Dedicated Member

    Hokkaido temps looking good for the next few days then appear to be rising

    Does anyone have a mid term view for a few days after the 28th/1st on precip and temps in central hokkaido / Furano area?
    Forecasts seem to be jumping around a bit

    Coming over for a quick ski tomorrow :)

    Cheers!
    Simon
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    I've had lots of that in Honshu :D
     
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    Tonester

    Tonester Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    I observed 15 to 20 cms on my car in Tomamu this morning.
    Strong wind from the west resulting in closure of gondola and late start of powder express quad. Got on a couple minutes after they opened it and the pow was very sweet and creamy up top.
    The westward facing slope was wind packed and heavier pow.
    Hiked up above old, defunct chair and skied the line under it. Not bad snow considering it was wind affected.
    Winds looking to drop by tomorrow and the crowds increasing.

    <**Warning....OFF TOPIC***>
    As we strolled through the Tower hotel (we are not staying there) the reception check-in line was huge. I suspect blow-ins from China/HK/etc from the sounds and behaviour.
    Will try Sahoro for the first time tomorrow </OFF TOPIC>
     
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    Jellybeans1000

    Jellybeans1000 Dedicated Member

    Forecast for Central Honshu.
    Important note: Snow depths are calculated from EC and GFS data, Freezing Levels solely from GFS and the description an analysis of most global models.


    25th Feb: 0cm 900m No snow
    26th Feb: 5-10cm 1000m Warm early, Moderate snow later
    27th Feb: 0-2cm 700m Light snow early, warming up
    28th Feb: 0cm 1300m No snow
    1st Mar: 0-10cm 1100m Moderate wet snow/rain later
    2nd Mar: 10-30cm 700m Heavy snow, better quality up high.
    3rd Mar: 0(GFS), 30-50cm (EC) 1100m No snow on GFS, Heavy snow on EC.
    4th Mar: 0(GFS), 20-40cm (EC) 1400m
    5th Mar: 0(GFS), 10-30cm (EC) 1500m
    6th Mar: 5-15cm 1800m
    7th Mar: Dusting-5cm 1600m
    8th Mar: 5-10cm 400m
     
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    Jellybeans1000

    Jellybeans1000 Dedicated Member

    How is that @bondibob Looks on the warm side on GFS. On the cooler side on EC.
     
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    bondibob

    bondibob Active Member

    Thanks so much for that Jellybeans.

    Looking pretty solid!

    Only thing to worry about seems the freeze levels.