Japanese snow season 2016-17

Discussion in 'Weather' started by Sandy, Nov 23, 2016.

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    telenomore

    telenomore Well-Known Member

    20-30 cm in Furano town through Friday. Starting to look like mid winter. Above average snowfall so far.
     
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    Jellybeans1000

    Jellybeans1000 Dedicated Member

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    Still like the look of the 11th December.
     
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    Jellybeans1000

    Jellybeans1000 Dedicated Member

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    Nice coldfront on 19th December
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    Freezing cold with possible blizzards on Christmas Day continuing to the 27th...
     
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    Crispy013

    Crispy013 Dedicated Member

    6th and 8th looking more solid now - back end of the passing lows should deliver some falls for central honshu IMO
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Personally, I don't see how we can take seriously, forecasts that are 23-25 days out.

    Plus, please explain what these charts mean.

    For example at first glance, you think "WOW!!! -5 degrees in Tokyo, and -10 in central Hokkaido".

    It's not the case. This is the 850mb temperature chart. The colours indicate temperature at the 850mb (850 hPa) level in degrees celsius. This is the temperature around 1.5 km above sea level. It's useful for determining areas of large temperature gradient, between warm and cold air masses.(e.g. a cold front). Sometimes you can add 10-15 degrees to give an approx temperature at sea level, but this rule of thumb often doesn't apply in winter.
    So for example, if you disregard the "winter" rule, then add 10-15 degrees to the chart for sea level, you get 0 to +5 degrees for central Hokkaido, and +5 to 10 degrees in Tokyo, which is nothing to write home about!!! ;)

    However, this can be useful for finding the approx max temperature at 1500m.
     
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    Rabid K9

    Rabid K9 Dedicated Member Season Pass Silver

    Worlds apart....sun feels like it burns down 28hrs a day in Western Australia, dream of that central Hokkaido winter landscape when I'm re-enacting a Victoria Bitter ad, daily.
     
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    Jellybeans1000

    Jellybeans1000 Dedicated Member

    Sorry I will explain charts next time :thumbs:
    I have more knowledge in the long range side of things, rather than the short range side of things. I will always have an interest in long range charts, which you can easily ignore:)
     
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    seekingpow

    seekingpow Dedicated Member

    not seeing any sign of the strong siberian high belt yet
     
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    TDS

    TDS Active Member

    So, at this stage, when is it looking like we will get some snow that sticks in the central honshu resorts?
     
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    LMB

    LMB Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Today?
    Bloody mild I thought!
    Good day for trying on ski gear for Japan adventures!

    Checking out this thread, and snow reports and cams keeps me sane on the hot days.
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Normally, it happens from around mid December. The forecast charts change every six hours, so why depend on them?

    No need to worry at this stage. About 5-6 years ago, Cortina (Hakuba) had 0cm at the base, around 15th Dec, and had a 208cm base by the 22nd.... it's like a switch that flicks, not a gradual accumulation like in Australia.
     
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    Crispy013

    Crispy013 Dedicated Member

    Though I think we had some faulty wiring last year :whistle:. Hopefully switch is back to normal this season.
     
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    PMG

    PMG Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Like the look of Tuesday for Honshu.
     
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    Morino

    Morino Active Member Season Pass Gold

    15th & 16th looking great for honshu on 3 models today
     
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    Jellybeans1000

    Jellybeans1000 Dedicated Member

    Which models?
     
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    TDS

    TDS Active Member

    A
    gree with @Jellybeans1000 , could you post the models?
     
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    smitty484

    smitty484 Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Post models and then sandy will add them all to the front page
     
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    Nozawaman

    Nozawaman Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    If it stays away till the 15th I will be happy !!!!!
     
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    seekingpow

    seekingpow Dedicated Member

    needs moar siberian highs
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Dec 5th ;)
     
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    PMG

    PMG Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Still
     
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    seekingpow

    seekingpow Dedicated Member

    Looks cold tomorrow
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    18 degrees today in Tokyo so still very much autumn for the time being
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    what time of year do the highs normally settle on siberia sandy?
     
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    Nozawaman

    Nozawaman Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Getting colder here after a pretty warm day .....These were taken just now, let's see what it looks like tomorrow ?

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    TDS

    TDS Active Member

    snowy we can hope.
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Maybe the first week of January.
    But that's not the only factor. movement of the Kuroshio current further south means less warm air comes in when there's a southerly.
     
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    Nozawaman

    Nozawaman Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    It's been snowing now for about 30minutes ....

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    smitty484

    smitty484 Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Get out there an snow dance
     
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    Nozawaman

    Nozawaman Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    I have , can't you see my footprints LOL
     
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    Crispy013

    Crispy013 Dedicated Member

    Temps heading towards the negatives and bulk precipitation over the last 3 hours or so....Hakuba 1.7C, Nozawa 1.7C, Yuzawa still 3.9C.
     
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    ojisan

    ojisan Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Hokkaido getting pounded.
    the official depth for Furano on the JMA website has 20 cm of snow since midnight and falling between 3-4 cm per hour
     
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    LMB

    LMB Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Wow! That's heavy!
    Fantastic news.
    #sorryaboutthesnowclearing
    #sorrynotsorry
     
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    telenomore

    telenomore Well-Known Member

    Yep, bucketing down all day. Powder day tomorrow. First lift booked.;)
     
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    ojisan

    ojisan Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Photo's ...............pleazzzzzze
     
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    woggybot

    woggybot Dedicated Member

    Gig
    Ged
    Dy
     
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    LMB

    LMB Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    Yaassss please!!!
     
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    Brad Filmer

    Brad Filmer Active Member

    Looks like from the 14th onwards also has good winds (lake effect), cold temps, ok highs, through till the end of the model runs.
    I could post a chart but they all look good and I don't know whether to post the 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th or 18th.
    Plus 9, 10, 11th all look like snow down to 600m for Nozawa.:)
     
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    Brad Filmer

    Brad Filmer Active Member

    Summary of today....:D
     
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    Crispy013

    Crispy013 Dedicated Member

    Yeah 14-15th looking the goods.
     
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    ojisan

    ojisan Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    be interesting to see what the reports say this morning.... there could have been enough snowfall to open the top lifts of a few of the mainland resorts
     
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    smitty484

    smitty484 Old And Crusty Season Pass Gold

    Purrr
     

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    jeffx@stormwise

    jeffx@stormwise Active Member

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    seekingpow

    seekingpow Dedicated Member

    Gigiddy
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    I wouldn't call 3rd and 4th December "mid December"!!!! o_O

    JMA sites reporting very little snow on the ground at resort base areas in central Japan
     
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    Zimboo

    Zimboo Addicted Member

    MG in Myoko reported 25cm at his place last night.:)
     
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    PMG

    PMG Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Nozawa reporting 25 CM up top.
     
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    jeffx@stormwise

    jeffx@stormwise Active Member

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    Nozawaman

    Nozawaman Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    I'm just about to fire up the snowmobile and see if they have groomed the part I need to get to for some freshies !!!!
     
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    jeffx@stormwise

    jeffx@stormwise Active Member

    Ok Grasshopper.