Japan 2017 thread

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Donza, May 9, 2016.

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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    This. I do it all the time.
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    It's a nice thought, entirely different in practice though when you're trying to get the most out of every day for your clients I think. I actually ducked zero ropes when I was out by myself at Zao (I went around plenty). Part of what you're paying for on a tour is the knowledge of where it's tolerated, either by doing it discretely enough or at a place where the patrol simply don't care much. Some of the operators know patrol too, and patrol knows them and can be suitably leniant. Leaving the pow for other people? That's not really the game. If you receive a warning about doing stuff like that, don't do it again, it's a fairly simple equation in my mind. I did have some issues with some of the habits my group was encouraging in their guests, but ducking ropes was pretty low on the spectrum. Being dismissive about the importance of signing out of a resort if you go OOB, and actually having safety gear if you do it, is another story entirely.
     
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    pedub

    pedub Active Member

    The issue with guides ducking ropes is that they are not only ducking the rope themselves but they are teaching another half dozen others to do it as well on a daily basis. And they are making money out of it. All those people then tell their friends etc.

    The guide I have used would not do it even though I initially pushed him on it. It is easy enough to walk around or find another way in most cases. If it has to be done, then surely they should make sure the patrollers are happy with them effectively making money off breaking their rules. Plenty of places have proper gates or at least they leave a convenient/hidden 'gap' in the ropes. For the average person just getting the most out of their day and lift pass I think its a different story. I don't know of any truly Japanese guiding companies but wonder what their take would be on this.
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    I spent a day or two with a Japanese guide, certainly not a 100% Japanese company though, no qualms about it whatsoever. And yep, a relationship with the local patrol seems fairly important if you want to do it on a regular basis I think. We explored a new hill for the company I went with, and got warned about being naughty. So we didn't do it again. In other places it seemed perfectly ok as long as you're not blatantly being a douche in front of patrol. Skiiing under lift lines was definitely not on though.
     
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    PMG

    PMG Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Try telling that to Japanese snowboarders. They're experts at it.
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    Haha yeah I saw plenty of those tracks. Makes the mind boggle when the lift is barely clearing the cover and it's a pea soup day.
     
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    Rabid K9

    Rabid K9 Dedicated Member Season Pass Silver

    Then there is Europa....
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Just arrived at Shiga Kogen, did the snow monkeys today too on the way in, so dont need to go back there which is good, worth the look tho thats for sure.
    Word is they had 50cm last night and hs been snowing all day.

    Spent yesterday at Zao Onsen.
    Nice resort - pretty flat, wouldnt spend more than a couple of days there.

    Sucks to have left hokkaido when it dumped a bit.

    Will write a detailed trip report with pictures etc and reports on each resort when i get home in a month or so,

    @Sandy feel like sending me a PM with some places to hit ? Would be much appreciated! Staying south wing of prince hotel
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Done!!! ;)
     
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    Tonester

    Tonester Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Fly in to Asahikawa yesterday with my 22 y.o. daughter. Drove straight to Kamui. Despite my low expectation Kamui delivered. Fresh snow is needed, for sure, but the gate accessed stuff and straight under the gondola is still OK, if somehat chopped up.
    Today we drove down to Furano. Again, in need of a top-up but despite this had some fun up off the top pair chair through the gates there.
    Booked in with Alpine Backcountry tomorrow for some guided fun at Asahadake. Really looking forward to that as we've never been there before. Snow is coming.....sooner rather than later we hope.
    I've been meaning to provide a full trip report (including last week's Tohoku Taster Tour) BUT I get so tired at the end of the day. It'll have to wait till I get back to work;)
     
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    Mike Pow

    Mike Pow Dedicated Member

    Nailed it
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    Curious how much skiiing/riding the people commenting on it have actually done in the area I visited ;)
     
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    Beerman

    Beerman Dedicated Member Season Pass Silver

    Are you offering your services shortly???;)
     
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    Mike Pow

    Mike Pow Dedicated Member

    And where would that be please? No mention of the location in your original post.
     
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    Mike Pow

    Mike Pow Dedicated Member

    THURSDAY 09 FEBRUARY 2017

    Grace (@graceemurph) getting waist deep in 'Deadwood'

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    Kieran laying them over in 'Deadwood'

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    Sam (@standardsockco) on board the Powder Express in 'Deadwood'

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    Niseko photographer Glen (@gcp_ @360niseko) snapped whilst snapping Sam (@standardsockco) riding the Powder Express in 'Deadwood'

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    Yours truly (@mikethesnow) enjoying velvet on and off the ground runs





    WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH
    These 'Three Rex' caused quite a commotion as they rampaged through the mountain centre and on to the Yoichi chairlift

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    Michkin

    Michkin Active Member

    Does anyone want a free snowboard? This is my last snow day in Kiroro and I don't plan to bring the board home.
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    There is actually a mention of the location, here and in another thread, it's just not on this particular page in this thread.
     
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    Allan Thomas

    Allan Thomas Just Registered

    I have just spent the last couple of weeks in Hakuba and have just come in from a skiing today in Myoko. I have to say that I have been getting very pissed off and almost embarrassed at other Australians blatantly ducking ropes,skiing and Snowboarding out of bounds and under lifts. It is total disrespect for the Japanese that run the ski resorts. A perfect example i saw yesterday in Myoko after a big dump of snow where one particular run in the middle of the resort is closed with a KEEP OUT sign. Again, Australian skiers and snowboarders skied straight down past a Keep out sign and half way down the run an Avalanche that luckily broke hours before the resort opened. It was one of the biggest I have seen and was up to 3 meters thick finishing at the bottom of the run. It had the potential to kill 10 plus skiers or snowboarders if this had happened during the day. There are reasons why these runs are closed. Also remember that your insurance does not cover out of bounds skiing and that you also have to pay the Japanese patrollers for any rescues. Just remember - Respect
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    I'm well aware of that gully at Akakan, and the victims it has taken. I have never ridden it myself, and would not do so. I believe incidents in that particular part of the mountain are the main reason they have become very strict around Myoko. There is a very steep and exposed line at Alts Bandai that was hiked by members of another tour while we were there. Apparently that section of the mountain has slid down right through a terrain park and basically down to a restaurant in the past. Our tour host actually took the time to talk to the hosts from the other group (they weren't actually guiding I believe) and gave them a large serve about the extreme danger and stupidity of hiking and riding that line. I saw it sloughing (and the tracks vanishing) in the sun the next morning from the quad. The company I was with do snowpack checks and rescue refreshers every weekend, and have an excellent relationship with the mountains they visit. Any bootpacking was cleared with Ski patrol and they checked us out of the mountain on such occasions. A few ropes were ducked, people are making a massive deal out of it.

    Good of you to register just to make some assumptions and grill me though.
     
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    Seafm

    Seafm Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    The holiday for Seafm JNR and co has come to end. Friday morning they return to North Queensland reality. It looks like they had a ball.

     
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    LMB

    LMB Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    It's nice to live vicariously through your young ones enjoying themselves, huh? #3bearcub and his 6 mates have another 5 days before they start their journey home - they've had a great month so far - low tide in Niseko or not. Good to get them home in one piece.
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Heh, heh..... maybe I should!! ;)
     
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    Seafm

    Seafm Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    I'm sure they will be going back in the near future only next time they'll have this senior citizen in tow;)
     
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    sourmash

    sourmash Well-Known Member

    Sure. Can you dump it at a property in Niseko? Ill be there in 2 weeks and could pm you the address. BTW, what are the specs and condition?
     
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    Slowpony

    Slowpony Active Member

    has anyone who's been to the ski shops area see any size 12 snowboard boots?
     
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    blowfin

    blowfin Active Member

    My friend picked up some size 13's around Ogawamachi in Tokyo a couple of weeks back. Should be able to find something.
     
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    Michkin

    Michkin Active Member

    Sorry, I already checked out. Just left it there in the hotel ski racks, in a purple bag. It's a elan spike, used it for 2 weeks on piste only.
     
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    LMB

    LMB Part of the Furniture Season Pass Gold

    The sad thing is it'll probably still be there in 2 weeks time!
     
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    Dave6

    Dave6 Dedicated Member Season Pass Silver

    Which run would that be? Just curious.
     
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    Michkin

    Michkin Active Member

    So there's still time for any of you to pick it up while there!:whistle:
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Booked nozawa 25th - 28th then our snow time is done.
    Off to Nagasaki after that
     
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    Allan Thomas

    Allan Thomas Just Registered

    Its to the right as you are going up the Yodel number 5 triple chair, sorry not sure of the name of the run if it is actually marked as a run. It has a large rock or waterfall in the middle of it about half way down which the snow had broken away from.
     
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    Crispy013

    Crispy013 Dedicated Member

    Will be keen to hear how Nagasaki goes. I'm pencilling it in for my trip next year along with Fukuoka and Beppu.
     
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    mr muddle

    mr muddle New Member

    We just got home yesterday from our weeks in Hakuba and Tokyo. While I have limited input from an awesome photo point of view I can offer some fantastic tips on how to travel with little kids....

    I do want to say a big thanks to @Sandy for his tips and suggestions for Tokyo and also a big thanks to @TJ from Whitehorse for putting up with my family at 10pm while we talked with Sandy. I hope there wasn't too much cleaning up to do in the play room.
     
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    Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler Addicted Member Season Pass Gold


    Mr muddlev keen to hear about how you went with little kids - how little is little?
     
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    mr muddle

    mr muddle New Member

    2 and 3.5yo. trip went well as we could hope for.
     
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    Chondro

    Chondro Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Will let you know, as we are also heading to fukuoka and beppu too so will let you know about them too.
     
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    Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Season Pass Gold

    :D :thumbs:
     
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    Dave6

    Dave6 Dedicated Member Season Pass Silver

    Thanks. I think that area is always OOB, well it has been each time I have been to Myoko.
     
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    Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler Addicted Member Season Pass Gold


    In Hakuba? Did you use childcare?

    Trying to find some childcare options in Japan for an 11mth old.
     
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    Tonester

    Tonester Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Heading to Sahoro tomorrow. Any tips?
    It's a Saturday. Can I expect crowds like Tomamu?
     
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    Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler Addicted Member Season Pass Gold


    Crowds skiing or sightseeing??
     
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    pedub

    pedub Active Member

    Yeah. Crowds at Tomamu??
    With no skis?
     
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    Tonester

    Tonester Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    I suspect photo snapping, gondola riding tourists.
     
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    Tonester

    Tonester Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    yep, I'm thinking so
     
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    mr muddle

    mr muddle New Member

    Yeah we used evergreen, but they only take 18mo+ It was ok, but its a pretty small room and they don't do a whole lot as they typically understaffed we noticed. Kid didn't go outside all day
     
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    M_G

    M_G Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    The child care lady (Shige-san) at Myoko Snowsports specialises in 0-2 yo.
     
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    TJ

    TJ Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Good morning
     
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    Crispy013

    Crispy013 Dedicated Member



    Bonza Tohoku footage....this is where I want to explore next I think.
     
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    Froff Life

    Froff Life Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Phaow that 4K HD :eek:.
    We visited Zao this season, charming village and not too many westerners around. Definitely keen to hire a car and explore deeper into Tohoku next time