Opinion Falls Creek - Bouquets and Brickbats

Discussion in 'Falls Creek' started by currawong, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. DbSki

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    You can debate the outgoings but the bottom line of the ledger is how affordable it is, and its more affordable than it was in the past.
    We could host an Olympic games sport of skiing price complaints and its a sport skiers have participated in since skiing began.
    30p a day to ride up Bull Run rope tow was daylight robbery according to my father.

    What really cut their margins was cheap overseas flight that had them competing with overseas resorts where they once had a captive customer base.
    That was the dark ages of Australian Skiing, service with a sneer was common, after the enlightenment they were forced to start practicing customer service, something a few of them still struggle with to this day but those few are thankfully uncommon now.
     
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  2. skimax

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    Yes overseas travel by air was only for the rich really until the 80s
     
  3. Legs Akimbo

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    I flew to Europe in 1988. It cost more in absolute dollars, without adjustments for inflation, then than it would now. A couple of thousand, or close to it, IIRC.
     
  4. skimax

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    yes dont disagree LA , i should have put 90's but they were coming down in real terms from the 70's during the 80's ,
     
  5. BillyKidd

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    Air fare prices have certainly been pushed down by competition. Ski hill prices not so.
     
  6. currawong

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    Except that most mountains offer early bird season pass deals at amazingly good rates compare to historic rates
    And there have been some pretty good deals on offer for those who qualify, eg Falls Creek's coffee club cheap day ticket for parent with kid in ski school, BFF plan for free ski day for a beginner friend, 1234ever season pass for beginners, fathers day dads ski free. I don't recall anything like that in the 70s and 80s except for closing weekend.
     
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  7. BillyKidd

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    Yes that is true. And they certainly need to do it. But it doesn't offset accommodation costs etc that still gouge nor do they handle poor snow conditions very well with, if not refunds then hold overs for a season or three. And other hills around the world world offer these things and more so the value proposition is just better....especially on lift ticket pricing and on available ski area etc. I love skiing in Oz but the industry has always failed to really get the value proposition going.
     
  8. hongomania

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    Bouquet
    - what a view (still a patch of snow on spion kopje!)
    - fantastic customer service and facilities at attunga lodge

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  9. Scott No Mates

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    @hongomania - is that view from the loungeroom/deck?
     
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  10. Edgecrusher

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    Bouquet: the coffee at Stingray. They've changed their beans since I'd been there previously. They made consistently good coffee.

    Had a great couple of days escaping the heat and getting right out beyond the resort boundaries on foot and MTB.

    Even landed some small brown trout on the fly within the village
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  11. Hully

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    Observations/experiences season to date:
    - queue management from Guest Services currently a big fail
    - lift operators friendly and safe.... too many unnecessary slows and stops but with over 50 rookies and this early in the season not expected
    - chain fitting/road clearing unnecessarily conservative. We haven't had a double figure snowfall for the season but requirements to use chains on many unnecessary kms of 'black road' not Falls Creek standard. Summed up by snowplow 4wd parked at chain fitting bay checking that 4wds are engaged instead of clearing the 4cm of snowfall that had guests fitting chains 8km from resort. No operating snowclearing vehicle observed for while trip.
    - on snow food and beverage.... nothing has changed!
     
  12. BillyKidd

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    Lack of common sense with chain policy, crap on snow F&B....just add slowing lifts and wind holds and ever decreasing windspeeds and you have it summed up!
     
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  13. emkae

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    I was at Falls over the school holidays and I thought the Guest Services were doing an OK job during the peak times. I hadn't been to Falls for a few years and back then they didn't seem to do any queue management. But this time, particularly in the 2nd week of the hols when it was extra busy the people were sorting the punters into groups of 4 and even allowed "normal" people to go on the chairs ahead of ski school. Yes it wasn't perfect but they seemed to be trying

    Also thought there was a LOT of slowing/stopping of lifts and your post explains what was the cause
     
  14. Hully

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    Queue management frustrations probably a bit unfair on my part towards Guest Services, though they still haven't got the Falls Express right...except for the one occasion when one of the GS people positioned himself before the scanning gates and was managing all queue feeds to send 4s through the scanning gates. Frustratingly most of the time they had themselves up near the load gates calling for singles, most of who had pushed through and formed back up as 2s, 3s and 4s with their mates. I also get frustrated when on lifts used by more experienced skiers (eg Ruined Castle) that they can't manage themselves to fill all chairs particularly when the queues are long.
     
  15. BillyKidd

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    Be good if FC pushed more (signage and towie support) for full chairs....and encourage singles etc to race up front as required.