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Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Ubiquitous Steve, Jul 4, 2016.
Last one over the metal BBQ...
As soon as I get the $$ for a 4 WD I am going up there for sure !.
Lower Stoneytops Camp is suitable for 2wds..road surface pretty good...only the two little fords which are pretty good even for vehicles with small ground clearance....but up to Stoneytops Upper at Barrier 4wd is best and above barrier to old helipad(end of track) u do require a 4wd with some clearance...
oh the early development stage this year..interesting to compare these photos maybe...lot of blackberry crap has been removed so u can get to river for a drink/sit/camp whatever..
Bearman...do you get paid for all this or is it simply goodness of heart? Either way a great job....and if the latter...respect.
Saturday saw Team Bears spend more time clearing around above described campsite...
wiper snipper used up lots of line cord as we cut very tall grass down to size...
picked up a lot of discarded bottles/cans etc from around area
Attacked a few major log obstacles and cut them down to size and moved them to around fire place..
down side of weekend was persistent rain over sunday...
064 didn't want to cooperate and in the cold.wet we did not push the situation..
Bunnings Trolley suffered another wheel bearing failure after we exceeded its max wt carrying capacity by something like 300%
but we got some decent work done and even cleared a path along a major log from which we can expect to spray blackberries at a later date if summer ever comes!!!
no pics this time......got new wheels/bearings for Bunnings Trolley already!!
Echo 310 has stuffed sprocket and bearing has disappeared ..so a few minor repairs are taking place but should be in action for coming weekend ....still cutting ok over weekend
Little Echo 310 saw back in action after motor mower man did some work.filters checked.new spark plug etc..brocken/worn bits replaced...
brush cutter handle from old one transplanted on to existing Pope one thanks to Team Bears....
new wheels for Bunnings trolley too..... all sytems go again for weekend works program..
weather is on improve at last..bears getting excited as West Kiewa access set to reopen by end of month...
Productive weekend in same place...another area of blackberries got a spray and a few big logs got the chop and debri moved to fire place area....so we now have a user friendly area by creek where one can sit/camp etc which was formerly a blackberry thicket and fire hazard...pics to follow...also wiper snipper used up a mile of line cord too around campsite!!!
saw lots of mt bikes trail bikes and 4x4's passing thro...weather was splendid hot and still..
Just a map for curiosity stakes.
Is Stoney Tops an access track to Feathertop, @Ubiquitous Steve ? Not Bogong?
Yes Stoneytops feeds Nth Peak and thus across to its sister Mt Feathertop..
Stihl 064 got a new spark plug and managed not to conk out for most of the operation...
Bullants aint happy cos we destroyed their home!!
Srs chain saw work, US.
FB tells me of some PV track work on Eskdale:
Where are all the trees??!
We may remove the giant root ball later...Team Bears have come up with idea of using firefighting hose to shoot off all mud/stones etc and than an assault with chain saws and using pulleys and diesel to move the bitch..but it stays for moment..
old mangy logs not doing wonders for chains...got muddy guts...but over summer the debri can be used for firewood by campers as it dries out in sun...
all little wattle trees are very important for shade around picnic table so they are being well looked after......
not much more to do at this site for 2016....we have other areas to concentrate on from now on.....
this whole area was previously unusable and can now be a shaded campsite by the river....shade very important thing up there...
Word has it from a hiker on the bush walking web site that P.V. have been hard at work on some approaches to Mt. Bogong. From the first hand report Duane spur, The T Spur, Mt. Arthur track down to the old Heli pad and the Quartz Ridge are all a mess and just waiting for Team Bears to do their voodoo. There is a lot of fallen timber is blocking the trails.That is the news from out there.
good MrT ...we noticed that from Blairs to Westons had a few problems prior to winter....once West Kiewa is open again Team Bears are sure to wander up there waving the chainsaw sporadically on a day trip.....sure hope Parks are getting the "Eskdale Drain "under control....roll on summer we like the heat!!!
PV normally does a bit of pre Summer walking season, post Winter track ckearance each year on various iconic (na i dunno what this word means either) tracks.
Is the Lower Stoney tops campsite at the Snowy creek Rd and Dungey track junction or thereabouts?.That matches the description given of two river fords and a campsite by running water. By foot from there it is , according to the SV map 11 kms to the start of the Northern Razorback walking track. From there it is another 7.5 km to Federation Hut via the Summit. One would have to pick a good day in terms of weather in any season to make the push for Fed. hut . It is very exposed up there.This route is burning a hole in my in tray of treks to do.
yes what u say is pretty accurate....still not sure if barrier up there is open...cos a 4x4 can easily drive up to old helipad at end of vehicle track(which is inside ANP boundary...fires have made a difference to vegetation up there...fire damage is seen beyond helipad on walking track only....a well sheltered walk on ridgeline well protected by trees even though they are fire damaged till u breakout just below Nth Peak into open tundra...u need a good day to do this first time then in fog over Nth Peak and Mt.F it gets trickier possibly a few rock cairns could be useful placed here and there ...trail is definite till the open high portion....just after Nth Peak there is one little 15foot saddle to be carefully climbed into but its not dangerous..but winter with ice would test ones skills with axe/crampons and maybe a belay rope as a safety measure and GPS when conditions were less than ideal...summer its a doodle takes no more than 2hours to Fed with a day pack from Helipad...
I would not camp at helipad routinely as its windy/exposed and insects tend to drive one crazy over summer...better to camp Stoneytops Upper or Lower campsites as they are well sheltered so a good campfire can be enjoyed........
Read this load of betty swollocks. This means WAR!!!
"Overnight Node 4: Mt Feathertop Setting 1: Diamantina Spur There is a protected clearing atop Diamantina Spur which will accommodate a seasonal roofed accommodation facility. There is no direct road access to the site, but the clearing is large enough for helicopters to service the facilities. Structures will be installed on the protected southern side of the ridge amongst existing Snow Gums and with views to the south and out to the Razorback."
These assholes. They are going to put "high quality accommodation" into something that should just be left alone. Worse, they say "vision", "hiking experience", "master plan" and other such corporate bureaucratese. The shitheads. And of course the obligatory bullshit sap statement to the local autochthones...it would mean something if it wasn't stuck in as an obligatory box ticking exercise. Definitely need to stop this "progressive development" otherwise the pricks will want to put a sealed hiking path in, with "restrooms" and interpretation centres all over the joint. We're turning into Yanks!!
Sounds great. Helicopter served huts are fantastic in the Alps. I love it & there should be more of it.
Yes....they are great in the Alps.
Yeah. In the Alps. Leave them for the Eurotrash.
They are more suited to some alpine areas and not others IMO
lel. Did you mean sophisticated & skilled mountain lovers?
Huts are awesome.
Jeez.....wait till Steve pops head in here.
A few in Vic probably wouldn't hurt I spose.
If the privatization of wilderness areas (such as the Diamantina spur ), that are part of a Nat. park are incrementally handed over to commercial interests and we the regular punters/public stake holders will be excluded unless we also pay to stay in a new pay or push off luxury hut.If this is the case then this is WAR.
If they must put a hut on the saddle on the top of the Diamantina spur then make it a replica of Westons or Roper hut and make it free for all to use.It will take the pressure off Fed. hut which is way too busy these days in winter or in Summer.Who the eff wants their peace and quiet ruined by a helicopter dropping in upper crust supplies for some yuppies who are dumb enough to pay $2000 for a hike / BC snowshoe/Ski tour that we can all do for the price of a tank of fuel, some trekking food and so forth ?. There is no Environmental impact survey statement or proof of the veracity of the projected profits included in the draft plan. They are ram rodding it through before Xmas too.. Nat. Parks are for protecting bio diversity and for humans to find some natural peace and quiet .They are not for private development .
Now some of you down hill ski people may not get out to these areas much but as a wilderness seeking biped who treks this area all year round in blizzards and in fly blown heat I can tell you , if you like soft boy thingy facilities and development then keep it inside the towns and ski resorts.
" They paved paradise and put up a parking lot".
Easy tiger, you're amongst friends. This is the backcountry section and you'll find that people here have decades (really old dudes even) of experience doing shitloads of .....well, backcountry stuff.
Infrastructure where it's needed to lessen impact I get........anything disguised as "necessary" but really just a way to increase traffic for tourism, not cool.
I don't recall seeing anything about flying in supplies by chopper to Diamantina...
Elites are everywhere. They must be destroyed.
Or, to go a bit Cato, electissimus delenda est.
There's a thread for this Falls Hotham development no development argy bargy. Use it or lose it.
Out on two wheels today taking the pretty route between the Kiewa and Ovens valleys.
A lot of timber has come down on the tracks and barely been cleared away. In a couple of spots a 4WDer would need a chainsaw.
Pic 1 is from Pyramid Hill looking down the W Kiewa with Feathers just above the bike. Pic 2 is from the end of Stony Top Tk (Razorback Nth) with Bogong on the horizon.
Called in on @dossa5 on the way out but no luck.
I guess that is a two wheeled chainsaw? Husky.
(Husky's origin, like BSA).
I knew you were into sports bikes Ziggy, so is this a new acquisition?
No and yes Rab. I moved to an Adv bike a couple of years ago and recently swapped that for this dual-sport thumper.
Team Bears moved and cut up giant root ball in Lower Stoneytops Campsite in the area of our recent development...
bitch of a thing but after chainsawing it into smaller bits and removing it on Bunnings trolley ..and dragging root bit with 4wd we attained our management goal for the day...
seen some of the debate/alarm over proposals for Iconic Walking Track ...
Team Bears some what alarmed by some of management plans and we intend to catch up on some factual information shortly...
Table 13(sh.t thats an unlucky no too) is set to roll into West Kiewa to be set up on the approach side of river coming in from Dungeys Track.....table 14 is almost ready and it will follow into here but across on the other bank....so shortly that will bring table nos up to 3 at this good camp location..we call it the Broad Ford over West Kiewa on Dungeys Track...
we are just waiting on barrier reopening into here...
most of our work has been completed at Lower Stoneytops Campsite...we brought forward the disposal of the big root ball....
there are two stumps that could also go to improve the area for camping and vehicles..
also some deer hunters i see regularly have made a hardwood picnic table and they will set it up in Feb2017 when they return for running their dogs up there ...so this is good news for the area....no permits needed...just peaceful free camping without over management.......
Looks good but must admit I had to google dual-sport thumper and Adv bike! it's been 30 years since I rode a motorcycle!
A glimpse of Bogong at the end of Granite Flat Tk.
This is about 1400m ASL, and acc to the sign 2.5 kms from the Big Fella but I don't think that's right.
The track's in good shape - dirt rather than clay and rocks, and the shoulders have been slashed. It's steep in parts; doing it while wet would be hard.
There's a small clearing at the end for folk to turn around in. A large 4WD was parked right in the middle of it ffs.
Easily solved...just set fire to it!
Is that a 650 on the Huski?