Bogong & Feathertop Access /Track reports etc.

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Ubiquitous Steve, Jul 4, 2016.

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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    Team Bears just returned from sorte on Staircase....we cut most obstructions off the track yesterday(late) there was about 3inches of old snow around Bivouc Hut..:):):)

    Bivouc Hut has an all metal axe,hand saw with spare blade....a moderate amount of fire wood(dry)

    we popped saw thro a couple logs outside buried in snow and put them inside to dry out..

    had nice warm up at 6pm after a slog up Staircase..Bivouc Hut is very warm once fire is started..

    One medium sized log was left as it is running parallel to track 2/3 way up on final climb but we cut around it to make things easier...the return for effort on this one was not worth it..so it can be easily stepped over...basically the track is now clear with reduced effort needed to climb over or under things...
    track bloody slippery in patchy snow just below Bivouc Hut.....:eek::eek:

    we were pleased with our effort : 14in bar ,axe and wedge coped with all obstacles..;);););) clearance to Bivouc Hut only not above....Tank water tastes very good after the slog up there also..
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

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    a beautiful weather window presented on Saturday ...so Team Bears decided to do clean up on the Eskdale Spur from Carpark to Michelle Hut...we had a little time to put saw thro some wood(bit large ) already gathered for the hut and we added a moderate amount in the last moments of sunlight of the day..

    We note that Michelle has large wood splitter and a hatchet and a couple of saws which are size smaller than 30inch.but some spare blades are up there for these
    we also note a shovel is there too.
    dropped off a few fat candles and firelighters:just inappreciation of being able to use hut for a bite to eat/rest and drink before we had to return with little torch..

    it was a beautiful still night as Team Bears descended to carpark but we were aware of incoming forecast...for sunday arvo/night...

    only two trees are(we should say were as god only knows what else will come down with this frontal onslaught..) are left on track before the transverse (horizontal) to the creek bit of track..

    one tree is massive and will needs Parks Staff on a big saw come summer
    the other is doable with 14in bar but is just as easily stepped over...

    the bigger of the trees left is a bit of a clamber but we hammered the surrounding fallen trees all around it to make it less of an obstacle..

    so all up should be possible to carry skis erect on backpacks without much of a problem..

    we note track above creek in little erosion gulley is getting very overgrown with bushes and u are ganna get very wet after rain hacking thro there.....cheers...
     
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    Simplicius

    Simplicius Active Member

    Thanks steve, you made our hike down much more pleasant!
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    thanks for hospitality up there...I even got a cup of tea from the folk.
    appreciated greatly...
    must be a no go zone on Bogong Cirque at moment with the wind velocity.... :tany:

    yes ..those bits of track with multiple fallen trees and braches must be the pits taking packs off/on and crawling and clambering...the little saw does about 80p/c of stuff pretty easily and only a few big logs that needed plastic wedge and a bit of extra skill to roll out of way...sure glad Team Bears are not on that ridge today...it would be scary... :eek:
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    whats the go on the Eskdale Spur:p Approach ??has anybody driven or returned from Camp CreekGap.....??anybody out and about that can make a report???:p
     
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    Team Weasel

    Team Weasel Active Member

    I was up Eskdale a week or so ago. Road was in good condition, but snow made it hard for the 2WD. I'd say it would be even harder to get in after this week.

    The track itself is ok - a bit overgrown in a couple of places, and there is a massive tree across the track a bit before the hut.

    Thanks for all your work Steve!
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    yep massive tree on walking track will stay there till summer and Parks get to deal with it even tho we cleared a heap around it....

    but I am wondering how road in survived the strong winds and low level snow...
    well suppose on forest road parties have access to gear from back of their trucks to chomp anything fallen provided it is not to massive.
    our 5foot crow bar is a really useful item but we don't lug it up walking track and just use back of axe or nearby poles to leaver things around..
     
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    Endless_Winter

    Endless_Winter Well-Known Member

    Yeah I thought exactly the same thing. I was going to head up bogong via camp creek 2moz but have gone with another option as I don't have a chainsaw and I would almost guarantee with those winds some of that tall timber is blocking the road at some point.
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    well the other option would be via Staircase:which was well cleared 2weekends before this big storm storm but its a longer more demanding walk:Bivouc Hut is good and much warmer than Michelle with wood heater going and also has rainwater tank for water.

    Team Bears may poke around Bungelow Spur this weekend because we are told many trees are over track...

    was hoping somebody returning would give forum the picture of this main access(Eskdale) to Bogong after the storm when they get out of there???

    Please take care up top because other very experienced forum members are talking of instability and loaded faces..with some having personal experiences of slides...:confused::confused:
     
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    Ms Terias

    Ms Terias New Member

    A friend went in via Eskdale last night and sent this: "had to put chains on to drive in so u might have to do same. Tough walk in too because snow pushed all trees over path so we were damp by time we hit hut"
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

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    thanks for update...bit of track up from creek in erosion gulley was in need of wiper snipper action ...could hardly see my feet with torch on way down last Saturday before the snow dump..so this bit would have been a snow romp and also snow falling off trees nearby...Staircase on other hand has stuff all vegetation growing over track at least to Bivouc Hut.
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    now more good news...
    Team Bears just came back from Bungelow Spur....we targeted clearing works uptill the Hut Ruin which is one kilometre from Federation Hut....we ran out of chain/bar oil just 300meters from out target....it was dusk and we were sawing in dark with little led torch for last half hour..:p.

    There was lots of work up there especially 1km from Hut Ruin....we delt with most of small trees at chest height across track..some bigger trees on the ground we left as one could easily step over them...there are a couple of moderate sized ones that one can scurry under....we did not have time for a perfect job...we did as best we could...

    we were happy with our work output ...track now is a lot easier to negotiate with packs...:thumbs:

    there is one very big tree that has to be negotiated...be:eek:
    careful it is slippery on the lower side:eek: (icy/snow/slippery) but this will be delt with by Parks in summer..too big for us with 14inch bar...
    we got back down to carpark at 9.30 pm last night...

    In summary: all is good till about 2km below hut ruin...most of these obstacles have been chopped but some remain..
    snow has been packed well down by loads of folk coming up/down Bungelow spur so its easy access with a firm footing till the hut ruin..

    please thro any cut logs off track that you find before next snow dump because Team Bears could not get everything done in their time frame...o_Oo_Oo_O
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

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    Team again went up Bungelow Spur at weekend and stayed at Federation Hut..

    same locality 1km from Hut Ruin was a minefield of fallen timber...as real mess..
    chainsaw decided not to operate on way up but as we left at 3pm we had not planned to cut much on way up...
    It was settled and still on Saturday late arvo and bush was not too wet either..

    We rocked into Federation doing last km from ruin in the dark....spent night with couple in Federation hut ..first light we revved up chainy at created firewood from the long pieces(not much fire wood up there at all). We collected a little wood in morning so supply of cut and split firewood around wood stove is reasonable for moment provided folk replenish it as weather improves..
    Team Bears left before midday and cut as many obstacles as we could manage:it was snowing dry power as we decended.

    Met couple at ruin coming up:they were lucky as we always crank up wood stove before we leave(as somebody always comes late!!)Trail was well trodden so easy enough in red backs and overpants...

    Next bit was lots of work and we spent much time hanging on to saw beavering away..deliberately left some large logs that can be relatively easily negotiated....and we did cut some moderate sized ones too..and left some on track(parallel) as we were too tired to move them..:p

    It snowed dry powder all the way to Tobias Gap..

    then it became wet bushes and wet track and very wet and stuffed little Bears...pleased that we stuck it out while it was snowing to complete a reasonable job...and again we decended with torch from Tobias Gap....lower track to Picnic Point is overgrown and not pleasant when snow clags bushes over track...
    so things are not to bad on the Bungelow Spur for the moment....
     
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    AndrewA

    AndrewA Active Member

    Given how cheap small chainsaws have become, what do people reckon about potentially donating to buy them and then leaving them at appropriate huts? Maybe more appropriate for the Victorian contingent, as we have huts ( sorry NSW contingent).

    Last year I purchased the wood splitter which currently resides at Michell's on Bogong. Simplicius was good enough to cart it up to the hut, as I wasn't going to be going up Bogong for a few more weeks, and I thought it may be useful before then. It was a cheap and hopefully useful thing to have there.

    Along a similar line of thought, I'd be happy to buy a small cheap chainy to leave at Michell's, if this was thought to be a reasonable thing to do, but this also requires thought process about all potential OHS issues....(I'm a self employed doctor, so used to taking responsibility for my own problems, rather than relying on the "OHS - turf to someone else for responsibility " concept).

    "Ubiquitous Steve" does a huge amount of work in the Victorian Alpine regions ensuring fire wood supply, and track access, and I'm thinking that maybe we can all get involved in doing this ourselves with a small donation to provision of something more useful than a handsaw at the huts. Leave a chainy there, and cart up some petrol every now and then, and then everyone can collect their own, and others firewood - but, we are left with the problem of whom do the idiots blame when they cut their arm off with the chainy? Maybe better to have them try to "blame" an unidentified donor than to have them try to blame a Govt department?

    ?any thoughts

    A
     
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    skifree

    skifree Part of the Furniture Moderator Season Pass Gold

    High risk for benefit. Not really required.

    Not to mention fuel delivery, storage & management.
     
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    GS

    GS Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    Bow saw is more than sufficient for cutting a bit of timber to warm the hut.
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    it would be possible to have a saw stationed at Michelle Hut..locked underneath their dunny complex available to Parks Vic approved work parties...so they get access to key to do some track clearing/and firewood gathering..

    Left out to the general public it would not work well...bit dangerous...

    I would be most surprized if Federation don't have one in the locked store room..as any rescue out of their with folk coming down Bungelow would need some track clearing pretty quick...again Parks Vic need to approve use for a hut career group to do routine clearing works gaining access to a saw/tools and fuel with approval...

    its dangerous work clearing logs sometimes as they 1/slide down hills 2/roll sidewise sometimes3/bend back when under tension...so one has too be vigilant always...any accident up there would be horrendous ..4/so any work really needs to be done with 2 people for real security...

    but Andrew A has a valid case...we can only hope Parks Vic can position itself to use community helpers with approval to better look after tracks and firewood..

    the wood splitter at Michelle is a real benefit for all and hand saws are a good back up...

    in the current blizzard conditions u do need to be able to get fire going quickly and to have reasonable supply of wood to keep it burning for a couple of days...then it is possible to forage out in snow/elements to resupply/and dry out some firewood for the next folk that may be hacking thro some very savage weather and needy of a good warm fire for recovery..

    now the anti huts crusaders will see no merit in any of the above points...but Team Bears will just ignore their rantings/ravings...

    we certainly don't want folk to do some clear felling operation about town but we don't want folks freezing to death because firewood is not obtainable...so we need a balance and we would expect leadership from Parks Vic in utilizing community groups willing to do some work with their blessing and approval..

    simple tools like bow saw(spare blades)axe /wood slitter and hatchet,shovel and broom should be available at all our Alpine Huts...they cost stuff all but make it possible to cater for essential works...we should always prioritize these items as they may save lives ....:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    skifree

    skifree Part of the Furniture Moderator Season Pass Gold

    You get double the heat from the wood.
     
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    GS

    GS Addicted Member Season Pass Gold

    "woodsman makes a small fire, stays warm all night by the fireside,
    greenhorn makes a big fire, stays warm all night collecting wood"
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

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    well Team Bears must explain that logic to Nectre next time we interface....

    problem is when wood is damp most of us struggle to get a little fire going and when we do a few twigs is not ganna heat anything up ..so we put on some bigger bits and behold they catch fire and before too long we have lots of hot coals and then we only need to burn some large bits...is this too simple an explanation for u GS...

    what I see when I come and visit some huts is long bits off firewood that need to be cut to make a fire...
    Bears can tell u when they rock in with their little torches covered in snow after clearing debri in the snow for a few hours they are usually stuffed and wonder why folk don't at least go to the trouble of leaving sufficient firewood to make our frozen lives somewhat more pleasant..

    aint too many woodsman I know ganna ever start a fire out there on a day like today....most wood collected during periods of snow fall is wet/covered in snow and needs to be dried out.....also note woodsman sounds pretty romantic but its more practical to carry some of those supermarket firelighters if u really want to kindle something...

    GS the dimensions of Nectre are approx 1.5ft.x1ft.x1ft. so we are talking a very limited fire size for pot bellies or wood stoves..

    though some of us still chant the" mantra leave no trace and miget fires are the environmental godsend"LOL others of the woodsman have moved on to a better lot of strategies....LOL
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

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    Bears promise to post a pic debunking the silly principle of leave no trace...showing the freshly cut multiple fallen tree fork that was preventing sane progress along the Bungelow Spur just below the Ruin...GS we know u will love the pics of cut poles and sawdust ....;)

    ahh ... progress something to be embraced or feared???
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    this was one of the easier obstacles....we certainly left an art work for future travellers to marvel at...
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    Another sortee on Eskdale Spur Sunday/Monday.....

    temps above freezing all time we spent at Michelle Hut(water flowing freely from rain water tank tap)
    weather clapped out Sunday nIght with moderate blustery winds before the rain started to fall...
    no snow just some sleet for whole of Monday...

    we cut a little wood up for Michelle Hut then on way out Monday Arvo it was wet but not very cold or windy..

    cut every thing off track down to the little creek....the horizontal section of track remains the problem area... we kept at it and managed to navigate a semi cleared track thro two major big tree obstacles....so it is possible to leave packs with skis on and negotiate just about everything ...just take care steeping thro obstacles as logs are slippery and footing problematic for tired parties..even left half a bottle of muscat in hut!!!

    road in was slippery but surface is solid and no obstacles are down there..:p

    roads out thro the NE were a wash on Monday evening /....surface water over Milawa/Oxley Rd in places with no signage...we hit water at speed a couple of times but with diesel not an issue....

    its very very wet in NE at moment.....so take care...car off road with serious damage on Running Creek link between Ovens and Kiewa Valley Highways...poor soul scored a tree stump on side of slope...:eek:
     
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    Kletterer

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    Bennybluebirdday

    Bennybluebirdday Active Member

    USteve you're a legend. Planning on heading up Eskdale Friday. It's been a few years and your work/posts are invaluable.
     
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    We are heading up the Eskdale spur this Sat. so I will keep an eye out for the recently cleared logs.
     
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    CarveMan

    CarveMan aussieskier.com Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Got a trip planned up there at the end of the month :)
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    Team Bears were up at Michelle Hut on Friday/Saturday...we completed some good works on the way down on Saturday..the complex log jambs there were about 3 on horizontal section of track before the creek crossing...have been well an truly neutralized...just a few step over logs now no bending..nothing above to jamb packs/skis...

    the first monster log that one encounters heading up the track has had a giant slot/step cut in its middle...Bears produced a new chain for their 14inch bar before they commenced work on it....took about an hour we reckon to put multiple cuts so we could belt out blocks&chips with our axe...finished it just before dark set in...so all is easy going now....

    maybe a little work further we could do ...but we got it sorted pretty well we think...

    oh we saw a heap of forum members on our short sleep over....and past Mister Tee o s s's just before he made it on to "little step" (last horizontal) before last uphill/15min approach to Michelle on Saturday as we decended...
    weather was very pleasant and ideal for clearing ops even in jeans!!!!:whistle:

    take care all....we counted about 14 vehicles when we departed carpark on Saturday 5.30pm...so place is/was busy!!:p
     
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    We had a ripper w/end up the Eskdale spur /Michelle hut/ Mt .Bogong in clear sunshine , bluebird days!:) and hit the summit of Mt. Bogong on Sunday morning 7/8/16. :woohoo: I will file a full trip report ASAP and pictures will follow, insh`Allah!.
    I/We met Ub. Steve/Team Bears on the Eskdale spur on the slog up to Michelle hut on Sat. before lunch. What fine work he has done on the Eskdale spur and on the road up to the Camp Creek gap car park from Mtn. Ck. His work clearing 4WD trails, access roads,hiking tracks etc. of fallen trees,branches and logs, restocking refuge huts with cut firewood, candles, even a drop of port/ muscat ! etc.
    is worthy of a nomination for Australian of the year !:clap: .
    Keep up the Good work!!!:thumbs:. Give that man a coconut grandma!;)
     
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    jimmyharris

    jimmyharris Active Member

    More thanks to Steve from me as well. I was heading up to camp at Bogong summit as he was heading down on Saturday afternoon. The Eskdale Spur track is in great condition at the moment thanks to his hard work.

    Here's the massive tree with slot/step that Steve refers to above.
     

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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    Camping at the summit in that wind chill is very keen . It was very 'fresh ' up there. I don't like camping above the tree line anywhere. It is very exposed.
     
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    I saw that car wreck driving to mtn. ck. and back from Mountain creek to Myrtleford via Happy valley. The motorist lost it on the bend and hit a tree stump. The car is a write off. One hopes the driver survived. Oh Pitiful hour!
     
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    jimmyharris

    jimmyharris Active Member

    It wasn't actually too bad on Saturday night though a little chilly on Sunday morning. My tent (Hilleberg Soulo) has seen 100km/h+ winds in Tassie and survived so I feel pretty comfortable inside it most of the time.

    It's very hard to get the sunset and sunrise photos that I'm after without camping up high in exposed locations. (See my trip report at http://forums.ski.com.au/xf/threads/overnight-camp-on-bogong-summit.75844/)
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    we left some presents behind for you guys after our last 3 visits...
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    this one was tricky but mainly under control..but don't linger crossing this step as much weight is still situated uphill ..appears safe but cross this briskly please...
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    this complex on the contouring track was a real problem for Team Bears but we applied our selves and managed to restore some order after a few visits....
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    Thanks Steve. I love your work !. How about Stony tops track as far as the gate and Mulhauser spur? Have you done your magic up there lately? .
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    have not been to Mulhauser for a while nor Stoneytops but Bears have more strategic work planned shortly for other areas/tracks...we saw ten vehicles on Saturday as we left carpark at Camp Creek Gap ..so its a popular venue up there..maybe standing room only at Cleve Cole these days???we even forgot our two stroke bottle that is still in carpark vicinity behind a stump....
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    and another cute little complex was simplified by the cutting of a slot where Blue Teddy is sitting...but the bigger log remains and basically it is parallel to the track fortunately....
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    Those naughty trees! :( Your work is never done!!;)
     
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    NewTurns

    NewTurns Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Ubiquitous Steve, is all your activity for love or money? Seems pretty full time...and sounds like it makes a real difference
     
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    What U.Steve does for vehicular and two leg access to the mountains of the VIC ALPS/Bogong High Plains Alpine area is priceless. If there were 10 rangers assigned to this track work in this region only , they would not be as assiduous and valuable as this man is. I suspect he just loves hiking in the mountains all year round and being of service to others , in a volunteer capacity . I too find this to be a useful combination for contentment and good health.
     
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    CarveMan

    CarveMan aussieskier.com Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Have decided to take a bit of a risk and head in to Michell hut tonight - we can't get into our lodge at Buller and don't want to be there anyway because Interschools.

    The worst of the weather will be through by this evening but there's a chance the road won't be passable due to the forecast winds this arvo. Will see how we go. It's as much a shakedown trip to get CG going with snow camping and using all her gear, with the forecast it wouldn't surprise me if there are some relatively clear periods but if not we will just potter.
     
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    chriscross

    chriscross Dedicated Member Season Pass Gold

    Rolling the dice but hey, hope you wake up to the fresh stuff.
     
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    I am sitting at my friend's place here in Myrtleford listening to the rain and the wind.I hope that this cold front delivers a fresh snow top up tonight because I am going up the Bungalow spur to Mt.FT tomorrow and I am going for a XC ski lesson on Monday at Falls Ck . .
     
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    Thanks for clearing the track as best as you could on the Bungalow spur this weekend Steve.My friend loves your work and says he'll buy you drink next time!.:thumbs:We had a whiteout so we did n't get past Fed. Hut.:confused:Your work made the trip back down much easier.:)
     
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    CarveMan

    CarveMan aussieskier.com Moderator Season Pass Gold

    Road in to, and track up Eskdale spur were clear of large obstacles, with recent evidence of Steve's handiwork, for which we're thankful, but the small obstacles when weighed down with snow/ice made for a very interesting approach on Friday night.

    Took over an hour longer than last time bush-bashing through the overgrown & snow/ice laden shrubs.

     
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    Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Dedicated Member

    Team Bears spent sat arvo over on Bungelow Spur trying to simplify the section of major log fall....
    we did pretty well we had number of logs to go under down to about 3 with some big ones left to clamber over...
    we managed to lose a scabbard for chain saw bar some where there and temporarily lost some woollen clothes(found them on way out)....

    finished work late in day and started decending at dusk making good time down hill..
    slipped on piece of snow covered bark and came a mega buster with a leg fully flexed beneath me...it fffn hurt but I managed to get back on feet after 10mins and struggle back the last 2.5km past Tobias Gap and Picnic Pt..

    recovering with probably soft tissue injury at moment...take care up there... best injury ever for me...contemplated looking for phone and calling 000 but managed to extricate my self ok...should be ok by end of working week...

    but we are still pleased with our work rate.....we did manage to greatly reduce the obstacles along there....

    anyone finding an Echo Scabberd out there let Team Bears know please....
     
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    Our party met a man who was sitting on the track coming down from Fed. Hut, about three Kms from the bottom of the Walking track,who was wearing a soaking wet puffer jacket. He was just sitting there in the rain wrapped up in wet sleeping bag with his gloves thrown on the path.The weather was miserable, cold and raining.We were powering on back down to the cars to keep warm.
    The man had his young boy with him.The night before he rocked up after dark at the hut without a tent.
    I told the wet sleeping bag man to get up and walk the last three Kilometres back to car.Only that would keep him warm.He seemed unresponsive.We thought that was a matter of concern.As soon as we ticked our names off in the intentions book , back at the trail head the state emergency services arrived.Apparently the boy had called for help because the man had gone into mid level hypothermia.:eek:
    At least the primary school aged boy had more sense that the adult did.In the intentions book the man and the boy had written that they intended going to the summit of Mt.Feathertop,without any of the winter mountaineering gear that we had brought, not even a gore tex jacket.Nobody up at the hut on Aug.20/21 2016 made it to the top because of the massive powder snow whiteout conditions.:confused:Although Somebody failed to make it to the Bottomo_O.
     
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    Mister Tee on snow shoes

    Mister Tee on snow shoes Well-Known Member

    The work you do is dangerous but much appreciated.
     
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    AndrewA

    AndrewA Active Member

    Ummm. Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. Wet unresponsive man sitting in wet sleeping bag somewhere out in the bush = hypothermic man. Not to be left to find his own way down, especially with a minor. You should have stayed with him or escorted him down.

    And at least the primary school aged kid had more sense than several other adults up there, not just one.

    A
     
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