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Discussion in 'Japan' started by webberchoked, Feb 22, 2015.
Just take out your creditcard!
Edit: Ah - to late I see - somebody has used a creditcard already.
Yeah i saw your page the other day @M_G which is why i was asking on here if anyone had heard anything.
I dont want to stay there i just want to ride there
It's about 30 mins from Akakura if you have a car @Draizuh
Lodges like @skichanger and myself will run guests down if there's enough numbers. Hopefully some enterprising soul will set up a package like the Skate Bar crew does with Seki Onsen.
AirNZ have cheap flights NZ to NRT and KIX at the moment so im debating a japan trip this season. Was thinking mostly yuzawa but if it was open i could get over to arai pretty easy from yuzawa on the Hokuhoku line and a local train down to the new Joetsumyoko station..
Infact i was walking up to the Kumado lifts the day @webberchoked went to Arai and we spoke on the street but i think it was our first day and i had wife duties!!
haha yeh i was meant to go skiing at one of the other myoko resorts but kinda got lost and ended up at arai
Kinda got lost, on purpose.... Hahahaha.
Ooh what do Skate bar do with Seki? Probably one of my favourite Apres spots ever, such a great vibe. I ended up with a free DVD of them stuffing about on the local hills. The year we were in town (2013) there was a regular mini bus running out to Seki but I think that stopped?
The guys who run it just have some connection. Plus I guess they also saw a niche waiting to be filled.
Yes, there's still an official bus that runs but it got cut early last season because it just wasn't getting enough patronage. That's because they run it / ran it Japanese style with no heed to what is actually needed, pretty much like the regular resort shuttles. I've tried to provide some logical solutions but they don't feel the need to listen, so I've just given up.
I have been told there is another shuttle to Seki but I need to find details. If this is an option this season we will be steering people towards that.
This was last year's official bus
And then there was the unofficial Skate Bar deal
There is something else but Yukio had the details not me.
Starting 15th Jan ?????
Hordes start from around 27th December .
Well, as I said...
Not at Seki though.
If the snow is there, the punters follow.
Definitely re-opening December
More info & pics here - https://www.joetsutj.com/articles/60129639
My last trip there was 2006, so will be super interesting to see the updates.
They have a facebook page now. https://www.facebook.com/lottearairesort/
Large Hairless has decent vertical. 951 metres. Many flat spots?
In the middle, yeah. Bit annoying on a snowboard. Will take my skis when I go there next season.
Its looks impressive from the air.
The elevation is a bit worrying really, that base is really quite low compared to the other Myoko resorts. The top lift is basically the same elevation and vert as Seki. Looks to be a few north facing aspects though.
@M_G or anyone else with JP reading skills, are you able to elaborate a bit on the sections highlighted in purple on the trail map? Particularly interested in the annotations at the top of the hill.
Elevation wise it isnt that different to charmant, the aspect is different though. It looks like a BC spot to me
I reckon you're on the money.
For that elevation, look at the number of trees.... Tells you a lot about the amount of snow
Elaborating a little on what I said before
Sony chose the mountain for the view rather than for the quality of snow or runs. They only flew over the mountain in their helicopter and never walked it out before starting to build. On some days they'd have to bus people to Akakura because of high winds or crap snow. So, for one, the aspect is ill thought out
Also, presumably because the runs were also not that well planned, they had several deaths each year, although not all while out skiing. However, as I point out on the info page I did for Arai, some of the runs funnel towards the river or a waterfall. So if you are OOB you can get into serious trouble.
The depth of snow in that area between Joestsu and Myoko is astounding.
Took this on the train to Naoetsu station. Was drooling everywhere. what a location. So much bloody snow.
Ah yes, it's been a year or so since I checked this thread and read that. Makes perfect sense.
That's what the founders thought too as they flew over in their chopper.
Google maps Hakuba - Arai.....100km, 1:38 on mostly expressway....hmmm, doable
Maybe tack on a couple of nights at Itoigawa - then do Seaside Valley and Arai + Charmant again if so inclined.
Yep the snow would have to be pumping with low temps as all have quite low elevations. Would be pretty cool little triangle of places to hit mid week with proper good snow.
This. I mean, look at the Yuzawa area.... some resorts with elevations as low as 250m.
I will check this place out next season. Plenty of terrain traps and lots of snow. Punters will get themselves into all sorts of trouble here. One of the places where most should stay on piste.
Lotte started recruiting(300 employees in total)
What's the run conditions like? Things grow back really quickly in Japan, how much clearing and summer grooming will they need to do? Will all the runs be open or will it be in stages as they clean things up?
Mid winter run conditions are fine. It receives a lot of snow. Driving past this week the top runs are still holding snow, where as other close by areas at similar elevations have been snow free for weeks.
Surely the terrain traps can't be as bad as Nozawa?
I have done the usual inspect both on google maps, and i have been to Noz before,
For me Noz looks way more dangerous.
The lack of tree's could make it very susceptible to white out though
At least Noz and myoko have some tree's up the top..
Its pretty close to the coast, so there could be all sorts of weather
Apart from the terrain traps it's where you could end up if you don't know where you are going. Over on the right I can see trouble brewing already. They might have it roped off, but... "Hey, we can duck ropes!".
Next thing I'm getting calls from News Corp, ABC and/or Fairfax asking if I can tell them anything about missing Australian skiers. I kid you not, it happens!
Myoko Snowsports are going to be the ski school. Things are getting serious!
What it's looking like this week
Terrain traps exist in every japanese resort. This one doesnt appear to be any better or worse than any other. You cant say omg they are so bad here when hakuba is one great big f**king terrain trap and there have been very few deaths.
What's the purple bits? OOB?
Still wondering that myself. @Ramenman @M_G? Able to translate?